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SecondWar on 24 April 2022
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Nuvendil said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Yes, but they would be needed to spread out all the way from Finland to Romania, and many equipment parts need to be refurbished before they can be deployed. It thus would take some time before they would really get to full power.

But I agree, that would be suicide for Russia, even without NATO. It would just take a while to get to that point where Russia gets hopelessly outmatched.

If you think Russia could engage along a front of that size all at once, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Also, if he wanted to avoid fighting NATO - which let's be blunt, it's about avoiding the US for obvious reasons - he would only be able to invade non-NATO EU members which would contract his potential targets considerably.

And I also forgot the disparity in air power.  Russia has a lot of aircraft but it only has FIFTEEN stealth fighters.  And the SU-57's stealth capabilities are roughly equal to the F-117 Nighthawk...from 1983.  Which is several times worse than China's J-20.  Which is itself seceral times worse than the F-35.  Which in turn is several times worse than the F-22 (which if that sounds absurdly overdisigned...it's because yeah, it is). 

The EU collectively already has dozens of F-35s with more on order.  And of course has the latest, most cutting edge radar and anti-air systems.  So not only does Russia not have enough stealth aircraft to actually USE effectively, even if they did they would be effectively useless in the face of what the EU can field at this very moment, let alone after ramping up for war.  And if you can't establish air superiority over the regions you wish to operate in, you're going to get annihilated. 

(Oh and let's not pretend Britain wouldn't jump in on this either.  Again, *suicide*)

The main non-Nato EU states (due to their proximity to Russia) are Finland and Sweden. Others like Cyprus and Malta would be pointless to attack as they have like geopolitical relevance in context, or then Austria which would involve going through multiple Nato states first.