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aTokenYeti on 19 April 2022
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PotentHerbs said:
archbrix said:

If Xbox achieving that is a miracle, then PS5 selling half of PS2 in Japan most definitely qualifies as well.

But if you had equated Xbox's 20m lead in the US (without COD exclusive) to PS5 selling half of PS2's sales, that would have been a fairly good comparison actually. What's laughable is that you compared it to PS5 outselling PS2 in Japan, which is utterly preposterous. 

If you aren't going to bother to mention conditions such as the next three Call of Duty titles being on the PlayStation platform per Jason Schreier, or Microsoft's commitment to keeping Activision Blizzard games multiplatform, you have no grounds to criticize my comparison for lacking context, or complain about any scenario that does not factor in exclusivity, since you won't even bother to factor in official confirmation which I originally considered when making the post. Why do I have to equate for Call of Duty exclusivity but you get to ignore and flat out disregard the mid term future of Call of Duty? 

If you actually done the math, or looked at the sales curve for the seventh generation, you will see why Xbox winning NA by 20M is delirious without Call of Duty exclusivity. There is a much better chance the PS5 sells half of the PS2's lifetime in Japan (11.5M) than Xbox Series X/S winning NA by 20M units (25M+ swing from last gen) without Call of Duty being exclusive. PS4 sold 9.4M units in Japan with Sony leaving tons of sales on the table by not cutting price late in the generation. 

Seriously. Do your own math and give me a breakdown of how Xbox Series X/S can win this generation by 20M units without COD. Prove to me that it isn't as preposterous as the PS5 outselling the PS2 in Japan. The Series consoles are currently behind PS5 sales in NA, despite having a cheaper model, while the Xbox 360 with a cheaper model dominated from launch. The Xbox 360 was never outsold by the PS3 yearly in NA like the Series consoles have been outsold by the PS5 in 2020 and 2021. Launch aligned, the Xbox 360 is winning by higher margins, for longer periods, than the Series X/S is currently. Not to mention the PS5 is vastly outpacing the PS3 in NA, despite running into stock issues, which is another major point of comparison that cannot be overlooked.

Xbox having a slightly better chance to achieve Xbox 360 levels of domination in NA, than the PS5 outselling the PS2 in Japan, does not make the comparison lopsided. Both are extremely unlikely scenarios. That's the point of the comparison. 

I think you have been vastly overestimating PlayStation’s brand power and loyalty of customer base in the US this entire thread which is why Xbox returning to its 7th gen heyday seems so outlandish to you. The PS3 had a significantly more diverse and higher quality exclusives library than the Xbox 360, particularly in the second half of its life, and it simply did not matter in the US. American customers are vastly more price sensitive and service oriented than European and Japanese customers, they are extremely fickle, and have shown each and every console generation they will switch brands en masse without a moments hesitation. 

In mid 2005 the idea that the upcoming Xbox 360 would outsell the PS3 in the US lifetime was similarly outlandish, but if there is one thing Xbox and Microsoft really understand it’s the US market and its customers.