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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Intel Arc Alchemist desktop series including A770, A750, A580 and A380 SKUs reportedly delayed till late Q2/early Q3

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-alchemist-desktop-series-including-a770-a750-a580-and-a380-skus-reportedly-delayed-till-late-q2-early-q3

It's a rumour but imagine if Intel actually releases Arc after Lovelace/RDNA 3 while performing similar to Ampere midrange

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-core Zen3 CPU drops to 520 USD/530 EUR for the first time

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-16-core-zen3-cpu-drops-to-520-usd-530-eur-for-the-first-time

Intel 13th Gen Core “Raptor Lake-P” 14-core mobile CPU performance leaked, faster than Core i9-12900HK

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-13th-gen-core-raptor-lake-p-14-core-mobile-cpu-performance-leaked-faster-than-core-i9-12900hk

Zen 4 vs Raptor lake gonna be crazy. But I do think we are at that point where unless you do something other than gaming, getting anything over 5600 or 12400 won't really matter too much for gaming. Realistically, you can keep using 5600 or 12400 until the next console generation and then upgrade to the new CPU and instead, spend the money upgrading the GPU or monitor.

I would rather opt for the 5700X/12700 non-k to make sure I don't run into a core bottleneck if I plan to use the CPU for several years.

JEMC said:

I doubt the AM5 platform will last as much as AM4, but I don't think that it will last as little as the Intel ones. Give it 3 gens of CPUs. And I hope that the shorter lifespan will mean that ther X670 mobos will support all the AM5 CPUs, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't see why not. AM3 and AM2 also lasted very long. In fact, the number denotes the used DDR standard used on the boards. So unless DDR6 comes out soon, AM5 will last quite a while. I could see some AM5+ somewhere along the way, but AM5 should last long.

Now, being able to use new CPUs on old boards and vice versa is a different question...

My reasoning is that AMD seems to have made some odd decisions when designing the AM5 platform, like putting the capacitators on top of the CPU, forcing the heatspreader to have cuts in it, or that the socket is of similar size as the AM4 one, reason why most AM4 coolers will be compatible from the get go.

I fear that these decisions could limit the number of CCDs or CCXs, forcing AMD to launch a new platform when they launch processors with higher core counts. After all, we've heard rumors of AMD also adopting a big.little solution with their CPUs in the near future, and that will demand bigger dies.

On another note, I agree with you that an 8-core CPU would be a better investment for a PC that will be used for many years.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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