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Ryuu96 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Why are people still talking about the "nazi" bullshit? The russian government and putin are the biggest nazis around, they're trying to do the opposite of "de-nazifying" Ukraine. They want them to be nazi, just like russia.

Nobody here is Tbf but it was just a good Twitter thread which expands on the argument to counter it, for anyone still dealing with that shit, unfortunately there is a lot of crazy bastards still parroting the Nazi Ukraine stuff outside of here, especially on Twitter.

There's Westerners who hate the West and everything they do and think the West is some secret evil illuminati movement, the West supports Ukraine so Ukraine must be bad. Russia good. There's right wingers who are already Russian shills and left wingers who are so anti-West that they willingly side with brutal dictatorships cause they're so deep in their West hate that they've lost all logic and reason, as a result, both are easily susceptible to Russia's bullshit.

Both dumbasses.

Well perhaps Russia can invade Australia next lol, how do I bring this doco to Putin's attention?
https://www.stan.com.au/watch/revealed-amongst-us-neo-nazi-australia

As a migrant it is sad to see this kind of shit happening in modern Australia even agreeing with what Putin is doing. As an immigrant to this country, hell I love Australia, I love the culture it is very laid back and being so isolated from the rest of the world, relatively safe place to live. I am all for maintaining a national identity and pride in the culture, but these guys essentially think they are owed everything without working hard to get it and think everyone is against them. If anything they already have an easy life and all the doors of opportunity are there for themif they get off their arse and do something about them. They even resent migrants who become successful here, but they don't look at how much harder they had to work to get to that point.

I can kind of see some of their views and agree with them, but not their behaviours. The biggest one is how people from other cultures that flood the country as refugees are disrupting the way of life here. But instead of being all aggressive poor me, fuck them, this is our country, why not look at the root cause of the problem and if there is a way to solve it? 

When I come here it was very hard to get anyone to help you. My parents had to work multiple jobs below their education level because they were foreigners and even got paid under minimum wage at times. Things in the last 30 years have improved with immigration to this country so at least we are somewhat on the right track, just shady business breaking laws still.  People say Australia is one of the most multicultural places on earth, probably true, but in essence we are just pockets of other cultures in our own little bubbles. this to me is a problem, we should all be integrated better from the moment we arrive.

At the moment we have a Sudanese problem is some of the states, but in some of the other states they are wonderful people. So the question is why are they so vastly different?  

This is because when Australia accepts refugees they basically do so and we don't really go beyond the initial settlement and help these people integrating into society (I mean the general public not so much the government services they have access to). We allow them to move freely all to live in  the same area so they have no reason to be part of society and when people attack them they retract further and further into their own little bubble. The first few generations always cause problems from any culture as they bring their "bad values/resentments" that they have sadly brought back here from conflicts/wars at home. So the point being, why hate on these people? why not help them? make them feel apart of Australia and then they will feel safe. Some states/communities actually do a better job at helping these refugees integrate and it is evident when you see the vast differences that I mentioned with the Sudanese. When I moved to Melbourne, had all these people telling me be careful of them lol. I am like but I have them as friends already what am I meant to be afraid off lol? It soon become very clear that they were almost like two sets of different people and made me sad to realise how poorly they have been integrated here.

Sorry for the long side rant, but the point I am making is that poor governments give rise to these far right wing Nazi nutters in any country, even a place like Australia where you would not expect it. Starting wars to eliminate them isn't going to work because it will cause more of them to rise, or just another branch to rise later. In reality if humans were not so destructive by nature and greedy and learnt from the mistakes of the past, we would be 400 years future ahead in technological/social/medical advancements already. In essence all our borders are imaginary lines and we are one race. Those lines have change 1000s of times throughout history, so isn't it about time we all just learn to get along? Accepting other cultures does not mean you loose the site of yours. How much better would everyone's life be now if that was the case?

Here is one for the right wing that are scared of the one world order lol. Perhaps some aspects of a one world order wouldn't be so bad if it was for the benefit of all human kind equally? This being education, worldwide curriculum in ethics and acceptance of everyone in the human race to our children. Countries that do not teach these values should all be sanctioned and cut of from trade. Then in about 100 years from now we would have had enough generations leanings this stuff that hopefully we no longer hate people for the sake of hating people because our ancestors hated them people and tight us to hate them.