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Sansui said:
Pristine20 said:
JaggedSac said:
Looks like 360 grabbing up all these jrps is causing quite a stir.

 

I really don't care personally how many RPGs the 360 gets. Its the fact that people who claim to love JRPGs are quick to condemn the series that defined the genre thats ticking me. The bigger problem is that most of it is driven by console fanboyism.

Sorry Torillian, I couldn't take it anymore!

I don't know, seems like fanboyism to me to disregard all these rpgs just becuase they're for the 360, and unilaterally prefer FF instead. 

I've played hundreds of rpgs, and the snes, ps1, and ps2 all have many of my favorites.  I still consider FFIV and FFVI to be masterpieces in the genre, even Tactics to an extent, but there has been a marked downward spiral in the qualities that made their earlier games great.

Pretty much all the games after VI have suffered from much weaker character and story development, poor dialogue, overbearing, awkward religious themes that really don't work for the plots (FFX really went over the top.  I felt like I was being pummeled by aluminum sluggers every minute of playing that game), and in some cases some pretty crappy combat systems - the gimmick character/enemy matchup for fast/piercing/flying etc, with only 3 party members made combat repetitive, unchallenging, and boring.  Some people liked FFXII's mmo style combat system, but I felt it did not improve the game at all.

My real problem?  Like I said, I've played hundreds of rpgs, many of them deserving of attention they never got.  Final Fantasy continues to sell extremely well no matter how mediocre the game, and press reviews give them 9's and 10's while ignoring 'lesser' titles that have superior story and gameplay.  Fanboys hoist the name Final Fantasy like it's some kind of amazing prize, but these days, they're no better or worse than most of what's already on the market.

I tell you, I feel the same way about Halo 3.  I felt it was a pretty average game that didn't deserve 9's and 10's.  Halo fanboys annoy me too, just like the mindless Final Fantasy fanboys that have never played an RPG outside that series, but will tell you over and over that they are the greatest RPGs ever made.

I'm excited about Star Ocean.  It's not my favorite series, but development looks like it's shaping up pretty well.  It might turn out to be a mediocre game, but in the meantime, I think we have the right to be excited about it, just as you have the right to be excited about FF13 'proven' basis.

I'm a jrpg fanboy.  Not a console fanboy.  Please take your Final Fantasy agenda outta here :P

 

So you admit that certain FFs were your favorite JRPGs just like almost anyone  who's played JRPGs. You certainly haven't read all my post so I'll reiterate. I don't think I've played as many JRPGs as you because I started with the ps1 gen not snes and I got into them late into the ps1 gen. as a result, I've missed many ps1 gems that are ridiculously expensive now so I have to collect carefully. I'm actually currently playing "legend of Dragoon", one of such games I missed.

I would consider myself a JRPG fanboy as well. As I said before, I'll also purchase SO4 IF it comes to ps3 because I usually stick to only ONE console until very late in the console gen. I chose the ps3 for reasons stated in my sig. If I hadn't, I won't be playing LOD right now. I'm thus forced to defend the ps3 because I'm IN TOO DEEP.

Now that thats out of the way, I have no FF agenda. Hate 'em or love 'em is up to you.  Won't change the experience for me. I even said I preferred SMT:DDS & DDS2 to FF12 but it still doesn't stop FF12 from being an excellent game. Its just disgusting for people to claim that SO3>>FF12 which reeks of green case fanboyism to me. I've asked for proof but received none. I'm not saying people shouldn't be excited about SO4 but saying SO>>FF especially when some people haven't even played any JRPGs or any SO for that matter is baseless fanboy-heavy BS.

 



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