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Ryuu96 said:
KiigelHeart said:

As horrible as it is, we can't be sure about this actually.

They're probably in Russia, all those kidnapped Ukrainians have to go somewhere.

I'd seen a few report about some of the unfortunate Ukrainians who had been taken to Russia. One was that pregnant blogger from the Mauripol maternity hospital (actually, It was here that I saw that).

The other was about a lady who after here coach realised where they were being taken tried to get the driver to stop but they wouldn't. In Russia, they tried to move them on to an economically depressed area for extra labour but at least a portion of the coach refused to move and managed to make their way through Russia to Estonia. Hopefully many others managed to escape a similar way but doubtful that all did.

SegaHeart said:

It's obvious what the Russian soldiers are doing now, this can't be ignored hope a non nato country lends help to Ukraine so it'll be 2 against 1 only to stop the Russian soldiers intentions, though I don't think the 2nd country helping Ukraine will get invaded? Hope it doesn't come to that and the ally has to be brave, This is next level of evil, If I were in Ukraine as a civilian I wouldn't let a Russian soldier near me or my family even if they asked for food.

Of the Non-Nato countries that have Russian borders, I think only 2 are likely to consider war with Russia and only 1 other would realistically be strong enough to take them on. The former 2 are Georgia and Azerbaijan and the latter is China.

Georgia still has an axe to grind with Russia over the 2008 war where Russia seized Abhkazia and South Ossetia. South Ossetia has recently suggested holding a referendum on joining Russia. Georgia could potentially use the vote as a pretext to try to recapture the area which is still legally and internationally viewed as Georgian territory. However, Georgia lost badly in 2008 and unclear if they've modernised in there interim in the same way Ukraine has. Plus Georgia is a lot smaller than Ukraine so unclear how it would fair even with most of Russia's attention currently elsewhere. Also the likeihood of another Russian attack on Georgia down the line even if Georgia did initially succeed.

Azerbaijan's target wouldn't be Russia but Armenia - which counts Russia as it's closest ally. It would be over the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh. However I am doubtful that Russia is really interested in Armenia's problems enough to intervene on its side despite their allyship so it would ultimately be a separate conflict. Plus past conflicts over Nagorno-Karabakh/Artsakh have seen ethnic cleansing from both sides.

China sees Russia as an ally in being a bulwark against the West. Its not going to turn on Russia over Ukraine regardless of what Russia do.