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SecondWar said:
GoOnKid said:

I am so happy that Ukraine manages to fight back and recoup the land. This is what I was hoping for from the very first day and it warms my heart so much. At the same time I feel some slight remorse for the dead russian soldiers, to be honest, because many of them didn't even know what they were doing in the first place. I don't hate the russians, but I hate the russian government.

Now here's something that I would like to get off my chest. My uncle watches russian TV and he believes all the propaganda. Lately he shared a video of some old dude who was stopped by the police and complained about being stopped. He wore a jacket with the russian and german flag on the back along with the phrase 'friends' and the letter z on the back. The police told him that he should remove it and stop showing this in public otherwse he would face further consequences. Now this man complains how - for no reason at all, supposedly - you're not allowed to show a simple random letter from the alphabet anymore without being labeled a criminal. My uncle believes shit like this. We had a familiy meeting lately and he tried to justify the attack and how this conflict started back in 2014 when the Crimea was having a true and fair poll on where it wanted to belong to. Now when I intervend that the Crimea was stolen and there never had been a fair election at all, the topic stopped and we both knew that we wouldn't advance in this topic either way. Meanwhile my brother responded to this video of this old man and told how some of my brothers' coworkers painted the letter z on their helmets and, surprise surprise, they all faced trouble from HR and were told to remove it immediately. And for good reason, because in this same logic, if you wear a swastika publically, you will face consequences as well. If you show the middle finger to a person, you will face consequences as well.  But but but, it's just a random letter. But but but, it's just a symbol. But but but, it's just a finger. No, it's not. It has a meaning behind it, and this meaning is very well known.

Point is, I don't know how to get him back anymore. I fear he is lost to Putins propaganda just like those russian people that can't believe their own relatives in the Ukraine anymore are lost.

Does your family live in the former East Germany? I’m assuming so as otherwise I’m at a loss to explain why they are so easily swayed by the Russian propaganda.

Read something like r/conspiracy and stuff like that and you get the picture. Unfortunately there are people in every country who believe western liberty and democracy is nothing but a lie, WEF, Nato and Bill Gates are going to enslave us, covid and Ukraine war are arranged by them etc. They don't believe anything media says, so the opposite must be true.

I can't prove it but I think a lot of this stuff comes from Russia. Propaganda warfare they've been doing for ages. Putin's bread and butter given his KGB background. He's even playing the nazi card which has weirdly been all too familiar in western nations too.. there's a far-right asshole involved in something and people are screaming they're all nazis. Putin's now doing it with Azov to paint Ukrainians as nazis.

Ok now I sound like a conspiracy theorist so I better stop. But basically people who have their ideas about New World Order by WEF can be easily swayed by Russian propaganda I think.