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HappySqurriel said:
Diomedes1976 said:
WiteoutKing said:
Diomedes1976 said:
It will be interesting to see the NPD data for July .

In any case ,it is clear that the PS3 at 499 is far better value that the Elite at 480 .Maybe people are coming to realize this .

"It is clear"? That's news to me. Just how is it so "clear" that the PS3 is better value than the Xbox 360 Elite?


It is crystal clear .

Why ?Lets see .....

1.Ps3 has a Blue Ray driver for HD movies ....Elite doesnt .

2.PS3 has built-in wifi if you dont want to have all your house wired .....Elite doesnt (and cost 80 dollars to buy ) .

3.PS3 has a retrocompatibility with PS1 and PS2 that works very well ....the 360 retrocompatibility sucks .

4.PS3 has a free online service that at least allows you to play by internet without lag ...more than enough for most players who arent online-freaks .X360 and the Elite make you pay some 60 euros per year or 300 for 5 years .

5.PS3 doesnt break ,have 3 red lights know as the Ring of Death ,doesnt scratch discs ...etc etc .Elite has the same motherboard as X360 so it has the same problems .

6.PS3 has HDMI 1.3 while Elite only has the 1.2 .

7:PS3 can be connected to the PSP and be accesed by the PSP from anywhere with wifi .

8.PS3 has card readers ,Elite doesnt .

9:PS3 can use most PC keyboards and mouses and accesories ....X360 and the Elite have their own and expensive accesories .

 

 

All in all ,as I said before ,its crystal clear that the PS3 at 499 is a way better choice price-value that the Elite .


I agree with a lot of what you're saying in principle, but in reality I don't think it has much of an impact

The HD movies and card readers are great for the few people who care at the moment, but are pretty meaningless to everyone else

For a lot of people who care about the online capabilities (online gamers) would choose to have a wired connection anyways due to latency

Backwards compatibility is a great feature on paper (and can motivate people) but most people don't play many previous generation games on their system

The online services really don't compare all that well to eachother, the PS3 is free but not fantastic while the XBox 360's online service costs money but is pretty remarkable.

The PSP compatibility is only going to matter to a small segment of the gaming population who has (or will soon buy) a PSP.

 

 

What I am saying is the PS3 offers a lot of value over the XBox 360 Elite for you, but a large portion of the population will probably not see it the same way.


 Because you know I haven't heard a lot of 360 owners I personally know bitch about having to have a wired connection.  I know a lot of "hard-core" gamers who do all their gaming on wireless connections simply because it is more convenient.

 You act like the Blu-Ray market will not continue to grow larger either.  It is something that and increasingly large number of people will use over time.  CD's weren't a smash when they came out.  DVD's weren't a smash when they came out.  But ultimately, they became the standard storage format for several years. 

Why does everyone complain about the PS3's online as well.  Besides in-game messaging (which future updates that let you access the XMB in game will fix), I can count on one hand the differences I have really noticed between the two.  I agree XBox Live is better, but $60 a year better? That is a lot harder to answer.



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