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JEMC said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Yea pretty much. Especially during the summer, it gets really hard to play games on it. Like the cooling and etc can keep up with my 3080/5950x but oh boy, the room temp is like a toaster after 20 minutes. I could turn on AC but that's more like a bandage than anything. RDNA 3 is also going up in wattage so I suspect that even if I get the top end RDNA 3, the heat/wattage will be similar to Ampere but obviously, the performance, least in Raster, will be closer to Lovelace.

I just hope that RDNA 3 can compete against Lovelace in Ray Tracing. And I mean in real Ray Tracing titles and not the fake nonsense that AMD sponsored titles have. Because if I am going spend $1000-$2000 on a new generation of GPU, I want a new gen experience, not last gen Raster nonsense. If they are close in RT performance to Lovelace while being very power efficient, sign me up. But if they are going to pull another RDNA 2 vs Ampere, then it may as well be back to the GCN days... Just more power efficient.

Assuming Lovelace comes out first, my plan is to get a 4080 or 4090 and then wait and see how RDNA 3 performs. If it's comparable, it will be easy to flip it and get RDNA 3.

So, you say that but, almost right after that, you come up with

Captain_Yuri said:

I'll see what I can get my hands on. Once the 4080/4090 is in my hands and there's no issues with it like how my Strix 3090 fan shat the bed, then yea, I'll probably sell the Strix 3080 within the week.

It's unlikely I'll be getting FEs though as they are extremely hard to get in Canada.

Looks to me that you already have your mind set on what to get.

You don't fool me, mate. Even if AMD manages the miracle of being on par with Nvidia on RT while using less power, you'd look at DLSS vs FSR 2.0 or the drivers or any other bit.

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Ryzen 7000 “Raphael” reportedly enters mass production soon

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-raphael-reportedly-enters-mass-production-soon

So that means that they'll launch in about four or five months. I'd bet on November, and maybe launch along their new GPUs to sell the idea of a full system upgrade.

Loll I think you missed the part where I said:

"Assuming Lovelace comes out first, my plan is to get a 4080 or 4090 and then wait and see how RDNA 3 performs. If it's comparable, it will be easy to flip it and get RDNA 3."

But yes, I do typically favour Nvidia over AMD. Nvidia's innovation with Ray Tracing and DLSS among other things like RTX voice and Reflex are insane where as AMD's GPU decision feels like a shady salesmen with subpar Ray Tracing and FSR which was terrible until FSR 2.0. But even then, AMD is basically just taking existing tech, adding in a few tweaks and rebranding it as their own where as Nvidia does feel like they are bringing in real innovations in the PC space.

But at the end of the day, I did switch to AMD for Ryzen because AMD brought quite a lot of innovations to the CPU space that Intel was lacking in. If AMD's GPU division can pull a Zen 3 against Nvidia's Lovelace, I would switch. But Nvidia is a different beast than Intel and yes, AMD does need quite a lot to get me to switch. But if AMD is competitive against Nvidia in Ray Tracing and Raster, it should hopefully mean 4k 60fps native in games like Cyberpunk with Ray Tracing. And at that point, the lack of DLSS would be easier to swallow.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 30 March 2022