KratosLives said: why don't they come to agreement with putin. How is the displacement of millions of ukranians, thousands of civillan deaths and destruction of cities not worse ? |
why don't they come to agreement with putin. How is the displacement of millions of ukranians, thousands of civillan deaths and destruction of cities not worse ?
You seems to think to think Russia's demands are somewhat reasonable or that an agreement to something would actually make Russia stop. Why don't you ask Russia why they did not engage in diplomacy before invading? They were amassing troops at the border pretending that it was a drill and never offer Ukraine a chance to resolve the issue before shelling cities. They also reach multiple agreement for humanitarian corridor which Russia never respected. What makes you think any agreement will make shelling stop?
The only thing that seems to make sense now is the US/uk and nato want a heavily sanctioned wakened russia above anything, a halt in their military funding and advancement while the west and nato get stronger.all these sanctions were planned over a year ago.
What a load of conspiracy bullshit. If sanction would have been prepare over a year ago NATO would also have been prepared to ditch Russian Oil and gas. How about you try with an explanation like "NATO want Russia to stop their unprovoked aggression". Looks to me like it fits the current context.
Biden talked about catastrophic loss of live and destruction, before the invasion. Yet no one serious about preventing.
If you were actually paying attention, you would know that Russia provoke the west anytime they can trying to get a response to justify an escalation. The west did not give Putin what he wanted so he resorted to bullshit denazification to justify it's aggression. Any 'serious' action done for 'preventing' by the west would have been used as a justification instead, that's a certainty. And with your post, I'm inclined to think you would be now using those 'serious' action done for 'preventing' to further blame the west.
Honestly what could be worse?
Because Ukrainians live's were so great under Russia/Soviet Union I guess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor.
"also known as the Terror-Famine"
"Current scholarship estimates a range of 4 to 7 million victims, with more precise estimates ranging from 3.3 to 5 million."
And zelnsky is an odd person. He doesn't know wjat he wants and goes back and forth. He visits people of sufferent without showing concern, accepts ovations, I don't know if he's acting or genuinely concerned, considering he was an actor.
All your supposition here doesn't even pass basic scrutiny seriously.
And zelnsky is an odd person - An unsubstantiated opinion at best
He doesn't know wjat he wants and goes back and forth. - Seems to me he want Russia out of Ukraine and the shelling to stop, it has been the case from day one.
He visits people of sufferent without showing concern (yeah right -_-, we didn't look at the same videos. What do you want him to do to "Show concern"), accepts ovations (What do you want him to do, hide under something until the ovations over?), I don't know if he's acting or genuinely concerned(I don't know if you're tying to push an agenda or you're genuinely concerned), considering he was an actor. -(Yes we all know how bad an actor becoming president can be. Yet Zelensky actions speak for themselves. If he did not have concern for Ukrainians he would not be in Kyiv right now, cause you know he isn't acting like he is in Kyiv right now, he is in kyiv right now. )
What exactly is he hoping for, ukraine victory and at whats cost?
How about securing the freedom Ukrainians fought so hard to obtain in recent years? Considering the overwhelming support Zelensky have from Ukrainians right now why are you asking what Zelensky wants, why not ask what Ukrainians wants?