| Captain_Yuri said: In the CPU market, I don't think that's the case. AMD has been able to get away with selling a ton of CPUs because Intel didn't have an answer until 12th gen. And 12th gen had initial issues with RAM shortages and motherboard shortages. As that continues to get cleared up, we are seeing Intel CPUs starting to take the lead in sales. So if AMD has a bulldozer moment, I think Intel will decimate them in CPU sales. With GPU, it is different story. |
Absolutely. AMD Capitalized when their competitors fell over and stagnated, no doubt. That is competition at work.
Intel does have a solid product... But Intel also has another advantage. It has it's own fabs to produce CPU's with.
Once AMD starts to see sales impacted, then they will likely initiate aggressive price cuts... But that just isn't happening even with Intel's growing sales.
| Captain_Yuri said: And while it makes sense that they need money, some of their decisions feels very petty. Like their budget APUs being exclusive to OEMs or their 5600G/5700G being locked to pcie 3.0 while Intel is happy to sell you their 11400/12400/12600 for less price with full pcie gen 4 capabilities. Or with 6500XT being limited to 4 lanes of pcie. |
They are OEM due to limited fab space.
It makes sense for AMD to prioritize higher-end, more expensive parts in volume to meet those demands unless an OEM contracts for it.
The 5600G/5700G and 6500XT just had stupid cutbacks... But that was all to try and make the chips smaller so they can build more of them in volume to meet demand.
Intel is in a different situation... Because they own their own fabs, they don't have to stress about TSMC fab space being shared with others... Which oddly makes Intel's decision to use TSMC for Xe baffling.
| Captain_Yuri said: Personally those are the types of moves that annoy me. I bought a Ryzen 1700, Ryzen 9 3900X and back in early 2021, Ryzen 9 5950x. I bought AMD CPUs because I do need the cores for virtual machines and such but I am at a point where I don't really need much more and instead, I am more so interested in the gaming performance. I think that based on AMD's behavior as of late, if AMD and Intel has very similar performance for when it's time for me to upgrade, I'll be going with Intel. |
I go with whatever provides the most value at the time of the upgrade. I flip flop between Intel and AMD, I owe neither company anything.
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