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Pemalite said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Intel 12th Gen Alder Lake Starts Replacing AMD Ryzen Chips In Retailer Top-Selling CPU Charts, Desktop & Notebook Share Climbs In Q4 2021

https://wccftech.com/intel-12th-gen-alder-lake-displaces-amd-ryzen-chips-in-retailer-top-selling-cpu-charts-desktop-notebook-share-climbs-in-q4-2021/

The tides are turning towards Intel's favor. I think AMDs actions over the past year or two certainly damaged their "we are the good guys" brand that they were going for. Now that we have seen what it looks like when AMD is competitive, I don't think anyone should be making excuses for them.

Honestly, the current market is unprecedented. Even if AMD had another AMD Bulldozer mistake, they would still sell everything they could make and still be over priced.

Either way, we have been down this road before with the Athlon 64, where AMD's chip prices rose relative to Thunderbird and K7... Because AMD was competitive with the Pentium 4 and Pentium D and thus they could increase margins.

And now that AMD is back, they need to invest big in R&D to remain competitive with Intel.

Xilinix will help big time with some strong cash flow.

Either way... I am happy with my Ryzen 9, but I wouldn't mind upgrading to a 32 Core Ryzen 7950X... DDR5, PCI-E 5.0 come at me.

In the CPU market, I don't think that's the case. AMD has been able to get away with selling a ton of CPUs because Intel didn't have an answer until 12th gen. And 12th gen had initial issues with RAM shortages and motherboard shortages. As that continues to get cleared up, we are seeing Intel CPUs starting to take the lead in sales. So if AMD has a bulldozer moment, I think Intel will decimate them in CPU sales. With GPU, it is different story.

And while it makes sense that they need money, some of their decisions feels very petty. Like their budget APUs being exclusive to OEMs or their 5600G/5700G being locked to pcie 3.0 while Intel is happy to sell you their 11400/12400/12600 for less price with full pcie gen 4 capabilities. Or with 6500XT being limited to 4 lanes of pcie.

Personally those are the types of moves that annoy me. I bought a Ryzen 1700, Ryzen 9 3900X and back in early 2021, Ryzen 9 5950x. I bought AMD CPUs because I do need the cores for virtual machines and such but I am at a point where I don't really need much more and instead, I am more so interested in the gaming performance. I think that based on AMD's behavior as of late, if AMD and Intel has very similar performance for when it's time for me to upgrade, I'll be going with Intel.

hinch said:

Captain_Yuri said:

This honestly feels like an Ampere/RDNA 2 moment where I was thinking this would be north of $5,000 but it ended up being only $1,300. PC gamers have been getting rekt with shitty monitors and their shat prices. Asus Mini-LED VA ultrawide monitors for a couple years ago with stupid amounts of ghosting and other nonsense costed $2000+ USD. Asus Mini-LED legit last year with so many issues costs $3000 USD. Samsungs Neo G9 costs $2500 and the list went on. All while LG is able to sell their OLED tvs for $1200-$1500 that runs circles around PC monitors with the biggest downside being their size.

Outcomes Alienware, a brand known to be overpriced, with a panel technology that will circles around even the best LG OLED TVs of this year for a fap worthy price. QD-OLED technology are going to be in TVs that will cost $8000+ USD this year. For the first time in a long time, PC gamers finally get to enjoy a monitor with flagship panel technology for relatively cheap price. Yes $1,300 is expensive but this is equivalent to buying Ferrari for the price of a Toyota Camry.

On top of that, it comes with Alienware's Advanced Exchange warranty that covers burn-in for 3 years. Like 90% of the stores where you can buy a OLED TV does not come with burn-in warranty. Yet Alienware is not only going to include it with an already crazy low price, it's going to be for 3 years!

Like idk what caused Alienware to make this decision but holy fuck. This is the type of news that really makes me excited. Hopefully this will force the other monitor manufacturers to bring down their prices. Cause for $1,300, there's 0 point in buying anything else that's not QD-OLED at this price point.

Yeah at this price it kinda makes everything else a joke in comparison. And that comparison is apt. It could be the turning point like how people have moved on from LCD to OLEDs on phones. And this could be the start.

Granted $1300 is still quite a sum of money like you said its cutting edge tech for sensible cost. Makes me think that these panels are a lot more cost effective from Samsung than LG. Or that LG had been way overcharging OEM's on the large OLED's or something.

And that burn in exchange program is nuts. I don't think I've seen any other manufacter offer any service like that without taking up a premium after sales service.

Really interest to see how Samsung and other manufacter price their OLEDs. Because Alienware has all eyes on them ATM and rightfully so!

Yea this is like Thanos of Monitors coming to wipe off all the shat products in the PC space. This is the type of product that can truly be disruptive and correct all the bullshit in the PC monitor market. I just hope Samsung Display and Dell/Alienware can ramp up supply fast enough for it to be in stock by holiday season. I get the feeling Alienware will release their 38 inch version of this sometime next year so I might hold for that if I can't get my hands on this one.