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the-pi-guy said:
DonFerrari said:

Chazore is dismissing all the issues as non-issues. Like suddenly PC gamers are ok with 30fps, semi-portable but no great battery etc.

Sure I can see it being the best one available on a market that well only have bad HW available, that is on smaller PCs. But when we have had PSP, PSVita and Switch as portables that are acceptably near console level games (and in case of switch it is also equivalent to console in some aspects) then it is hard to defend the mistakes in design or sacrifices. Like if you make the portable so big (and well the screen isn`t as big) then do it properly for battery life (one of my main issues with smartphones is they having giant screens but ultra thin, while it could be a tad bulkier to have double the battery life).

On price we go back to the point that on PC space the HW are being sold for a good premium, and it is good that SteamDeck isn`t going the same way, but I guess it still have a premium.

>Like suddenly PC gamers are ok with 30fps, semi-portable but no great battery

You can still turn down settings, and play at 60. They were just demonstrating battery performance. 

>But when we have had PSP, PSVita and Switch as portables that are acceptably near console level games (and in case of switch it is also equivalent to console in some aspects) 

There's still a big difference. PSP, Vita were all playing console level games from a generation earlier. The Vita was being pushed as a platform that could play comparable games to the PS3, but it launched 5-6 years after the PS3 came out.  

The Steam deck is poised to be able to play PS5/Xbox Series games in a handheld. It'd be like if the Vita came out in 2007 instead of late 2011/early 2012. Of course the Vita would be much larger and have much worse battery life. 

On the size and performance front, MS/Nintendo/Sony really couldn't do much better. 

Those systems are a lot smaller because they made that size the priority and made sacrifices on performance. Valve is doing the opposite and putting performance first and that is appealing to a lot of people. 

Yes you can mess around with settings to try and get the performance you are most confortable with, still being able to make it 60fps with other compromises don't nulify the defense that 30fps isn't a problem anymore for PC gamers while for the longest of time bitching console games were inferior 30fps experiences. But why not give more battery if you already making it this big?

Sure there were close to 1 gen difference between the games on console and PSP and Vita. But if we want to go that way there will be a gen difference in quality between a top level gamer PC and Steam Deck don't you think? Also sure that if Vita launched earlier it would need bigger size and less battery, there is no magic, the earlier your device the least powerful for same size and consumption.

I would say the 3 would likely use the space likely better, there isn't much to be done on the APU itself because well neither Steam nor the other 3 develop their APU.

I think it is hard to say that performance was first when well that in itself would already remove portable being a choice =p

And just to make clear, although I have Switch I would more likely play steamdeck than it, will monitor the prices for when I'm able to buy it.



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