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Chazore said:

Captain_Yuri said:

I think the main issue is that these games are developed for 30fps in mind and because of that, it takes a significantly more powerful GPU to push these frames any further. Even on PS5 it's meh. With Sonys new games having 60fps options, I can see the next one running better overall ironically.

I did buy it from cdkeys which has a nice discount and no tax since overall, it sounds like a good port even if not a fantastic one. Plus it doesn't have Denavo which is always a plus.

But yea, as time goes on, Pascal and such will continue to underperform as a lot of new games are being developed for Turing or later.

It just seems crazy to me how a 1080ti is considered the min for this kind of game, even for HZD, when both of those were originally on a closed system that paled in comparison to that GPU. Looking at that 3080 chart and I'm even more surprised, because that GPU atm is rare af, expensive af, and only 81fps, which again, just seems so...low?.

I hope the ports going forward do better perf/visual wise, because as I said to Hinch, I had a tough time trying to spot the differences between texture detail and SSR (and we've seen since the past gen, that pubs have been playing texture parity with PC, especially ubisoft). 

My standards are pretty high, but that's only primarily down to the fact that these are ports from 2 of the big 3, who are exceedingly wealthy and can foot the bill. 60fps is and should be the standard on PC, then going forward, texture detail and the rest should naturally be boosted to being an obvious night/day difference, then we'll see the differences in demands.

The port itself isn't bad, not anywhere near what HZD was it started out, but I just find the hw demands vs perf metrics a bit off. Not saying it has to be a crysis style world of difference, but it would have been nicer to see something closer to what the latest higher GPU's are to accomplish.

One thing to note is after watching DFs video, the specs seems to be a lie. The specs said you needed a 1060 to achieve ps4 quality at 1080p 30fps but with DFs video, a 1060 runs at 50+ fps. If you are interested in the game, I would buy the game and try it out in the two hour refund window with the game ready driver and day 1 patch as the benchmark that I posted was pre-release which didn't have either.

I personally don't think the issue is the port. The port itself imo is pretty well done. But I do think the issue is overall is the game wasn't built with PC in mind initially so the improvements compared to the ps4 version seem subtle. There's quite a lot of differences in the video that you may not notice at first glace, but they do make a pretty big difference overall.

I do agree that PC ports should have more of a difference, especially when you look at the difference in a game like Cyberpunk. But overall, I can forgive them as originally the game wasn't made with PCs in mind and even then, they did put in the effort to include things like DLSS/Reflex/FSR and giving us higher quality settings in several areas that really looked yikes on the ps4/ps5BC version. I'll probably be more critical for the next one though.

hinch said:

@Captain_Yuri Yeah big differences in image quality and why smart upscaling is going required more for a good gaming experiences on PC. Particularly when we (as PC gamers) sit closer to a screen you can easily see faults over typically gaming on a TV. Plus, motion has always been a issue with checkerboard and in that it nearly always ends in a way inferior experience compared to native - like see RE: Village checkerboard, its horrible. Even spacial upscaling is kinda meh.

DLSS and the like (XeSS) will be more important as we push tech forward and I see it becoming a standard eventually as manufacturers come towards one solution (at lease I hope so).

Yea pretty much. If Sony continues to make ports like Days Gone and God of War, then I am pretty excited about their future PC iterations. Especially considering how Halo Infinite, a game made by Microsoft, ran like arse while God of War, a game made by Sony, runs pretty well and has DLSS and etc.

It will be interesting to see how these two publishers continue with their future ports cause we may one day have a "console war" on with these publishers on PC lol.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 14 January 2022