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src on 30 December 2021
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theDX said:
src said:

Nah, thats just your incorrect interpretation

  • PS5 will be getting the same games/franchises as PS4.
  • PS5 is not loosing the AAA gaming side to any competitor for Japanese players or publishers
  • PS4 sold roughly the same hardware and software as PS3. The userbase has stabilised.

Meanwhile your conclusion is nothing but wishful thinking continually based on incomplete or sometimes outright incorrect data.

Please explain how all these three points can't be reduced to what I said. If you believe that PlayStation has a built-in userbase of 8-10m users, gets the same games every gen and exists in its own space separate from Nintendo, that means that the PS3, PS4 and PS5 possess a quality that distinguishes it from other consoles, i.e., it's a PlayStation. All you're saying is that because the PS5 shares this trait with the PS3 and PS4, it will sell the same amount of units.

That's not data based, that's straight up tarot card reading/astronomy tier reasoning.

We have 15 years of data that shows a near stabilisation of Playstation home consoles in software and hardware sold. PS5 is getting the same games, the conclusion is obvious bar the people in this thread who wish it was not.

At the very least, my conclusion is supported by prior data.

Yours is nothing. Its based on incomplete data at best.

Sogreblute said:

Dude, do you realize that link you shared literally proves that Playstation is declining in Japan? You are providing proof for us why we are right. Like, the chart is RIGHT THERE!

2019: nearly 10 mil software sold (PS4 +PS Vita)
2020: around 7.5 mil software sold (PS4 + PS5)
2021: around 4.5 mil software sold (PS4 + PS5)

To top it all off this is coming from a Falcom presentation, where they say they Playstation has been declining and is one of the reasons their game sales have declined. They are like the "anti-Nintendo" and "pro-Playstation" company, and yet they are now doing inhouse Switch development. If the president of Falcom is saying this then you know it's bad.

News at 11, software declines as consoles get old and new ones have yet to peak. OMG what a discovery.

2006: Nintendo: 44M

2009: Nintendo: 42M

2021: Nintendo: 23M

Oh no look at that decline.

Its going to get even worse for Nintendo on Switch's last year and their new console's first year. Software sales could be <20M in total, their lowest in nearly 20 years, a 50%+ decline.

What Falcom say is near irrelevant. Their games barely sell 1 million. As long as FF, KH, MHW, RE, DMC, SF, Elden Ring etc remain only on Playstation in Japan, no one is worried.