Eagle367 said:
They went more the pop quiz route rather than the actual nitty and gritty. I am for "big" government as long as the government is serving the people and not causing wars. The "big" government argument is stupid to begin with because it matters what the government does, not how "big" or "small" it is. |
Yeah, besides the fact that a lot of public services are not exactly run by the government - take universities here in brazil for example (even though bolsonaro has been meddling with them), they have much more worker autonomy than any private university, it's not even close.
So is that "big government", when really it's just "big" (I wish) public funding for work done with relative autonomy? In a sense I'd like more public services with less government.
sundin13 said:
Thats a cool hypothetical, but that isn't how reality works. Moderate decision making simply isn't more evidence based than less moderate positions. Moderates aren't more likely to accept something outside of their typical political platform than less moderate positions. Moderates aren't the "get things done" branch of politics. I find it fairly laughable that you can still assert this given what is currently happening in US politics. What this is, to me, is a prime example of the "Moderation Bias" that I talked about earlier. People think of being in the middle as virtuous because of all these made up attributes they attach to the idea. Sometimes, the extremes are right. Sometimes, the extremes compromise. That shouldn't be surprising. |
In Brazil there's the term "centrão" (a colloquial version of "the big center"), which refers to parties and politicians who don't really have much of an agenda. Besides cling to power by negotiating their support to whomever is in charge, their biggest concern seems to be corruption - but they are rarely singled out.
Last edited by Farmageddon - on 26 November 2021