What's your political typology? (Quiz)

[Eagle367]

JackHandy said:

Eagle367 said:

You are making a lot of assumptions. First of all, how do you know where the good ideas are? Pretending they are always in the middle is stupid. They can be slightly right or more right or they can even be extreme left. And your example ignores that there can be extremist centrist positions as well. Being militantly centrist is only stoking your own ego. It also assumes you are smarter than the right and left wing person and can be the judge on what is right or wrong. And if someone has the best position which is on the left or the right, all you end up doing is diluting things and making them worse by trying to meet in the middle. Centrism would only truly work in a world where the system was mostly perfect but rough around the edges. That is not our world. We need fundamental changes to how things are run today. 

You don't dilute anything. You just look at what makes sense, regardless of its right or left position, and apply it. That's it. Which, oddly enough, would be exactly what you're calling for: fundamental change. Because when was the last time we had a leader who didn't adhere to his/her party's policies? It's always one or the other. One or the other. You may get the occasional leader or politician who is slightly more moderate, but you never get one who is completely outside the reach of the two, overreaching, fundamental power structures. So if you cherry picked from both, took what worked and threw out the BS, you'd have your change. Hell, you'd have a revolution, actually.

Sorry but that is nonsense. First of all, people take positions either because there believe they are the right thing to do or they do it because there is some personal benefit to be had, like money making. People who believe in their values are already taking what they think makes the most sense. You think people on the left and right deliberately take bad positions? And if you say they do it because their team leader supports it, that's a bias that all people can fall prey to, even centrists. The enlightened centrist position still doesn't work. Being "moderate" doesn't mean you are out of reach from either side either. You are again assuming the centrist is above it all and smarter and better than other people, which is just not a good look. Your assumption ignores that the right positions could all be on the same side as well and it ignores all the bias the centrist has.

It also ignored the fact that people on the left and right take positions that work for them according to what their aim is. I am not American and I grew up in a very conservative place. A place where essentially no prominent left wing party exists. I also for a while bought into the bs of Jordan Peterson and Steven Crowder. I cringe at that now. But my point is I got to hold my left wing positions because of believe they are the best for humanity. You wouldn't bet someone like me would end up where I am, but gérée we are.  You are pretending like left and right wing people are born with a bias and don't go through any  journey to improve their positions. People are also paid off to change their positions. So either you are calling me and others like me stupider than centrists or a grifter. I know you didn't say that but those are the only logical conclusions you come to when you run this through to the end. 

You also ignore paid "moderates: like Joe Manchin and Sinema. What you are describing is a child;a understanding of things. And by that I mean I literally used to think as a child why can't you just take the best positions from everyone and create a hybrid system.