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sundin13 said:
JackHandy said:

Again, the problem isn't justice. The problem is agreeing on when to seek it. And that had been perverted and distorted by political leaders on both sides of the isle to fit their means in the moment. And then you have Fox News telling its devotees that the left are evil-doers and out to destroy the country. And on the other side, you have MSNBC telling their devotees that the right are the evil-doers and out to destroy the country. But the truth of the matter this is: they are the evil-doers themselves. The media and the politicians who are masquerading behind one extreme or the other and using it to further their own agendas, which is mostly (surprise!) power and greed. And it's both sides doing it. The right, and the left. Both of them, equally. And that's why I said a moderate position is what's needed. Very rarely do you hear people these days talk about context, and yet context is the key to just about everything. It's the missing ingredient here; the door to people getting along again and justice truly being served; our salvation, if you want to get super dramatic about it. 

But unfortunately, the media on the right and left are losing the battle to the internet for revenue, so they're forced to drum up this ridiculous extremism where you're either a foe, or an enemy. So there's very little hope for our society finding context and subtlety in anything right now.

And that's just a shame.

The media is unethical therefore moderate policies are best (to paraphrase) is a pretty terrible argument. 

Look at it this way.

Suppose you have three people in a room. One is hard right, one is hard left, and the other is an a-political moderate. The hard right is going to stick to their party's talking points, and believe everything they say is utterly infallible. The hard left is going to do the same. But the moderate, on the other hand, he or she will be able to see the validity (and fallacy) of both their positions, equally. So instead of getting nothing done, they can take what works on the right, what works on the left, and disregard what doesn't work and make real, positive, pragmatic decisions based on facts and not dogmatic propaganda.

That is why I believe the in the moderate position.