Carzy Zarx’s PC Gaming Emporium - Catch Up on All the Latest PC Gaming Related News

[JEMC]

Captain_Yuri said:

So after a day of watching reviews and such, I think my overall feelings with Alder Lake is this.

At the top end, it's kinda meh. When AMD was able to beat Intel in workstation and gaming with their 5000 series, it felt like a David vs Goliath situation. It was impressive because AMD who went nearly bankrupt was able to not only beat Intel's current line up (10th gen) but next gen line up (11th gen). That to me was quite the "wow" factor. Intel reclaiming it's throne with Alder Lake, especially with such a low margin feels a lot more meh because they have all this tech and even then, it's only 12%sh faster in average and not in every task. If it was more like 20% on average, I'd be much more impressed but it feels like a pretty meh rendition.

At the budget end, it's epic. The fact that an i5 12600k is able to compete against 5800X in production workloads while being faster than a 5950x in gaming is nuts. And if the leaks of the much cheaper 12400 is true, than that would be insane value.

Overall, it will be interesting to see what Zen 3D does. Hopefully it's not just at the top end but rather, AMD can finally give something to the budget users as well. For now, Alder Lake S is the go to platform thanks to its new technologies and such. If Intel can keep Alder Lake S priced right, least in the budget segment, AMD may not continue to have an answer.

I agree with you. That AMD managed to not only get back in the game but also beat Intel was nothing short of unimaginable, specially given how much each company spends in R&D. And yet they managed to do it. On the other hand, Intel managing to come back on top is what one would expect and, given how power hungry their processors are, also feels like a lackluster win.

But the 12600K is an amazing product and, if the leaks are true and the 12400 delivers, AMD will find itself with no valid mid-range product.

Also, you have more faith in the 3D V-Cache and AMD than I do right now.

green_sky said:

Intel now do the same with gpus. Something for low and mid end.

Someone, I no longer remember who (it could have also been me), posted a couple weeks ago an article giving us some insight on what their GPUs may cost, and it wasn't exactly good news.

Intel Arc Giveaway Reveals ‘Approximate’ Graphics Card Pricing
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-arc-giveaway-reveals-approximate-graphics-card-pricing

You can read the article if you want but the sumary is this: Intel is doing a giveaway and two of their cards are included, among other goods. Since it's a contest, they have to give these prizes an estimated value and, because we know how much the other stuff is priced or can be easily guessed, the "approximate" value of the cards are $825 for the top one and $650 for the other one.