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VAMatt said:
curl-6 said:

By that metric wouldn't even the Wii U and Vita be successes?

In some sense, yes.  But, it is not clear to me that Sony and Nintendo learned as much from those flops as MS learned from XBone.  The XBone's struggles pushed MS to completely refocus their gaming business.  Sony just stopped doing handhelds, and I don't see that Nintendo really changed anything about how they operate at all.  

Nintendo's marketing was shit back then, now it isn't. The Wii U had alot of droughts because they also had to make games for the 3DS. The Switch is the product of them learning from the Wii U.