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Alby_da_Wolf said:

A true problem of Brexit is that UK hasn't been able to replace EU market with something of comparable size.
But these shortages also show that a big benefit of remaining in the EU was being able to hire underpaid and overexploited truck drivers and day labourers aplenty. Probably good PR for those that like the most ruthless capitalism, but not so good for anybody else.

Eu tradeing block is the biggest in the world, and with the ties it has to trade to others.
There is no "something other of equal comparable size".

Also there is "gravity" to trade.
It doesnt make sense to trade half ways accross the world, if you dont need too.
Ei. proximity is a big thing.


"But these shortages also show that a big benefit of remaining in the EU was being able to hire underpaid and overexploited truck drivers and day labourers aplenty."

tbh UK has worse working conditions / pay for HGV drivers than most european countries (alot of countries in the EU, theres easy parking, rest stops with toliets/showers, ect ect). Apparently theres lack of HGV drivers in europe too, so it was odd that you could get away with it in the UK.


It also shows:

UK did nothing in the 5 years since the leave vote.
You knew this was going to be a problem (HGV drivers), but no one thought ahead to try and fix it, before it became a issue.



"Probably good PR for those that like the most ruthless capitalism, but not so good for anybody else."

Ruthless capitalism?
1) UK has modern day slavery, in numbers shocking to rest of europe.

2) Also, to fix this HGV driver issue (only until christmas, because Boris Johnson, wants a marketing PR slogan, of "saveing christmas"), your asking for 5000 to come on 3 month visa, to help fix the issue.  It takes 1-2 months of training (if you dont have the licence), so its 1 month, and then on christmas day, you get kicked out of the country.

3) Your cutting universal credits by £20 at a time, when gas/heating prices are skyrocketing, food prices are climbing, inflation is up, tax increase.....
300,000 children live in homes that will go below the poverty line , after this cut, in the UK (total its more than half a million people).  Theres elderly saying they will have to choose between heating/food. Theres people (elderly) that will freeze to death this winter in the UK (higher numbers than normal).

Is that ruthless enough?

kicking people out that come to help, on christmas day? haveing children's homes fall into poverty, and letting elderly freeze to death?

*edit:
Johnson apparently has now extended the emergency visa scheme for HGV drivers, it will now run until March 2022.
Also from Monday, 100 military drivers with licences to drive these trucks, will start helping out.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 02 October 2021