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Captain_Yuri said:

Yea pretty much. BIOSes can be all over the place. The main thing I found is that the BIOS updates work best with the configuration of that era. So with X370 in my old system worked fine with 1700x CPU. But when I upgraded to the 3900X, that's when urghhness started to happen since I needed to upgrade BIOS as well in order to receive support for 3000 series. Basically 9/10 times, it just wouldn't boot until it went into it's "crash free BIOS" mode. Eventually after tinkering around with it, I found that it was cause for some reason, the RAM timings were causing the problem. I set the RAM timings to manual, boom, no issues after that. Like the weirdest thing ever.

Of course, this is gonna get even worse with the launch of Windows 11 as I am sure there will be BIOS and chipset updates to get Windows 11 working sufficiently. Overall though, it's better to spend the extra money on BIOS flashback cause it could save you a lot of headaches lol.

One of the reasons why I hate updating firmware in general they can be so finicky and nerve-racking. Like if there's something that goes wrong you can say goodbye to that unless there's some sort of fallback. I remember bricking my Razer Deathadder before due to a bad flash.

Idd on Ryzen set ups I noticed that its extra picky on RAM types and timings for stability. Which is why I'm a bit more reluctant to touch my memory for any type of OC. Though tbf, in my case it was kinda my fault since I forgot to reset settings to default before updating it (a big nono). But yeah, going to spend the extra in the future to save myself the stress should something go wrong. That extra 20-30 bucks is way worth it than my time and reassurance!

About that Epic case.. that's insane. Should that bill go though that will have a big impact on closed platforms. For developers this will be a game-changing thing. Particularly if release freeware with paid content. If Sony/MS get hit by this I'd expect there will be a lot of publishers looking at free to play model (GaaS) for the games.

Yea that's for sure. My rule is to only do firmware/BIOS updates if the product is still under warranty. Cause at that point, the manufacturer will replace it. If it's outside of warranty, I'll just leave it cause at that point, you would have to replace the entire thing if shit hits the fan.

All the lawyers and law suit trolls right now that are about to sue companies for not allowing third party payment options in their platform: