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Captain_Yuri said:

Yea it will be interesting to see how it releases. If Alder Lake S and Zen 4 Vcache are similar in performance, I'd certainly get Alder Lake S because of it's DDR5 and PCI-E 5. Especially since PCI-E 5 will probably last you the entire console generation. (Even PCI-E 4 will but GPUs are really getting huge uplifts in performance so in the PC space, it will be interesting).

And yea, I am not gonna buy any Gigabyte products ever again. Their X570 boards initially had tons of boot bugs thanks to the way they implemented their Dual BIOS nonsense where sometimes, it would boot into the wrong BIOS and wipe all your settings. Then their 3000 series launch had some faulty wiring issues that caused the pins in the power connector to pop out. And now this?

Just essh.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/3080-3090-3070-gigabyte-eagle-gaming-oc-vision-power-connector-concerns.18900176/

The winning company this gen seems to be Asus. Some of their products might be overpriced but man, I have yet to see any of them have problems. Hell even their TUF series which are their "cheaper" ones have higher quality components than some of these higher priced Gigabyte/Evga FTW3 ones.

True, Intel seems to have the new technologies ready with A-Lake, its just matter of performance and value/price. Buying into AM4 now isn't really a good idea now we're so late in the generation, and that while we're on the edge of new stuff launching. And like you said while PCi-E 4 may be good now, you may be better off getting the one with a future standard. I'd imagine there will be some extra costs with going into since cutting edge usually means early adopter taxes (like DDR5, mobos), but with the way AMD are pricing things it'll be interesting to see which comes on top with value/features.

Yeah Gigabyte stuff seems flaky. Like anecdotally, my old X370 board was highly unstable until several AGES updates later. I never had any issues with ASUS boards and they're usually built well with decent quality components. This and other ungainly news just makes them look super shady.

Last edited by hinch - on 25 August 2021