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Cyran said:

JEMC said:

There are a lot problems with Apple scanning for child abuse pictures, but one of the first ones that come to mind is: what are they going to do if they find them? I doubt they'll warn the authorities because, given that those pics/videos were obtained through an illegal search of a private property, no judge will accept them as valid evidence in a court case. So, again, what they'll do with it? Will they ban those users from using their services and lose customers?

And let's not forget about the cases where the algorithm may take a picture/vid for something it isn't.

It's not just the violation of your privacy that is a problem, but also what will Apple do with this information.

I also would have concern that this capability could be use to scan for other things especially in a country like china where let say a Winnie the Pooh film could get you thrown in jail.  No system full proof and this just seem way to easy for some one to figure out how to exploit and use for less noble goals as stopping child predator's.

That being said I think you wrong that apple could/would not give these report to out side sources.  I mean the picture they release (see Captain_Yuri post) shows they send the report to NCMEC (National Center for Missing & Exploited Children) where I assume it would be investigated by that organization.  Apple will just add it into the IOS 15 user agreement and then it be perfectly legal for them to search phone and give it to authorities.

As for the algorithm they already said each picture would be manually reviewed by a human before a report filed to NCMEC.  Worse job ever but it does resolve any issue with the algorithm being wrong.

I agree that, once introduced, it can be "easily" manipulated to search other things. And this is a very tempting prospect, and not just for governments.

I'm not sure updating the terms of service will be legally enough to make this legal because you own your phone, it's your property. And if that update is mandatory and not optional, you're not really giving your users the option to agree or not. For me, it's a grey area that lawyers and polititians will have to deal with sooner rather than later.

If Apple will have people reviewing the pics, they better start hiring lots of people. The police divisions that have the bad luck of dealing with this kind of crimes are the ones with more personal changes because everyone has a limit and, working there, that limit is reached very fast.