360 Numbers don't add up!

[Erik Aston]

------------------------------------------------------------------ The crux of this argument is YOUR guys's claim that Mexico is "meaningless", that it imports "90%" of all its consoles from the US, that it sells ZERO consoles (as somebody said), or that in 14 months of release the console has merely sold at the most 30k to a population of 110 million. You people were the one who attacked me when I tried to add in any amount for Mexico... not the other way around. I'm using common sense a logic, apparently something you guys are incapable of. Why are you trying so hard to focus on Canada, or why are you so hesitant to admit Mexico does account for some sales? MS didn't launch there and doesn't throw special events there because they pump out ZERO consoles in 14 months. Even if they account for a mere 5% of US sales, that would still be significant enough to add in. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I'd say it'd have to be a little more than 5% to be significant. 5% is probably within NPD's margin of error! You're not really using "common sense and logic," you're using your own speculation about what MIGHT have been sold in Mexico... I think your initial guess was 1.5 million for Canada and Mexico... Hopefully everyone agrees that there certainly have been SOME consoles sold in Mexico. And maybe vgcharts is adding in a very modest amount for Mexico, maybe not... Regardless, assuming they have the same policy for all consoles, we can still look at things comparitively, both with other current gen and with legacy consoles. Now maybe the 80% sell-through their 8.34 million number represents should be a little higher. But certainly not as high as the 95% nexgenwars suggest, and they are basically your other option. When it comes to sales research, you just can't account for everything. At the moment, 360 is getting the short end of the stick for sure, because it has completed its launch in far more minor regions. But there isn't much you or I or vgcharts can do. Looking through this site, you can't deny that they have extensive videogame sales research, the most complete that I have ever seen anyways, and it is generally consistent with widely reported and discussed sales numbers. Now, as for how total 360 sales will end up? I expect it will continue its slow climb beyond XBox's month-to-month numbers as people see it as a more and more viable alternative to the PlayStation brand, and with 6 years on the market instead of 4, it should sell some 40-50 million WW. The question for MS long term is when can they start making a profit? Supposedly the hardware is making profit now, but the division is still in the red. Any profits will mean more long-term security for XBox owners.