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SvennoJ said:
ironmanDX said:

"Many companies who run online services give the first 1-3 months free, as an incentive to get people to give it a shot and see if they're interested. But that's just a signing bonus, not 'well we gave you one month free, why not all months free?'


A free trial? Not even comparable. You bought the software and hardware at full price and as you said, an early adopter to boot.


"So why can't PS5/Xbox give away a bunch of free upgrades in the first year of their console as an incentive to upgrade or an assurance that games they buy in that first year or so, then expect you to pay later once that initial period wears off?"


Why indeed... It's been 7 months... We're in that generational shift... When games go "full next gen" there won't be a need... That's kinda the point!!!! 


"IT's crazy to me that people think that just because a company was generous once that they were obligated to never ask for money again. Absolute insanity, if you ask me."


It's crazy to me that you can pay for the full game at launch, pay for the system it plays on and not get access to all the features and say it's fine to be charged for post-game support and patches.

A dangerous precedent is being set here.

Lol industry standard. Anyway I'm curious, what games have EA and Ubisoft updated with haptic feedback, 3D audio and Japanese lip sync?

It's crazy to me that you can pay for the full game at launch, pay for the system it plays on and not get access to all the features and say it's fine to be charged for post-game support and patches.


So many questions....
Why would buy the game at launch for a system that's not even out yet
Why would you buy the game for a different system than what you want to play it on
Why don't you play the game on the system you bought it for
etc

If I buy a move on Blu-Ray, then buy a 4K-Blu-ray player, should I automatically get the 4K HDR version? There's not even an upgrade path there, industry standard... Can't upgrade to the director's cut either or buy the extended scenes as DLC.

It's crazy to me that someone could buy one of my products, then expect me to give them free upgrades when they buy a new system. Even though your ownership rights have been turned into a license with digital games, that doesn't mean you now have a license for lifetime upgrades. Your license is for the product you bought, if you want more, pay more. That's the industry standard.

It's the same in FS2020, think carefully before you buy as upgrading from base to premium or deluxe version costs a lot more than buying the premium version out right. (The smart thing to do is to get GP for a month, buy the premium version with the GP discount and you have the game to keep without without GP) I just bought the Premium version at full price, well deserved (got 3,000 hours on it already) and I simply waited with GoT until I get the system I want to play it on, so will be buying the ps5 version (full price) with everything included.

Post launch support is an industry standard though and will remain so in the future. The companies try to change these standards and we vote with our wallets.

That's why there is no upgrade path for Blu-Ray. I's not "possible" I mean, if one existed, would you not take it? You can't just download a firmware update for the player or have another layer added onto the Blu-ray. I see your point but I also don't find it comparable. Also, directors cut/extended scenes would be additional content, which I don't have an issue with anyone charging for. It is comparable DLC.  That isn't what this is. I'm not arguing the point about additional content but post launch patches and support.

Imagine Nintendo charging to use the amiibo functionality for the Switch?

Ray tracing capable machines now eh? Damn, guess any patch moving forward for functions not possible on my last console but possible on my Series X should cost?

Yeah... No. I wouldn't pay. Neither are you. That's why you're waiting.