'Heartbreaking' conditions in US migrant child camp

[Pemalite]

Machiavellian said:

Pemalite said:

If you stop people... You also tend to stop the trafficking of other illegal items/substances.

Every nation needs secure borders... It is about being safe for the countries citizens at the end of the day.

Actually it really does not work that way.  Yes, you stop the people that just walk over but criminal organization have no problems getting into the US, they never have because as long as the system is controlled by people, money will make a way.

It actually does work that.

Drugs and other illegal items don't simply walk themselves over a border, they require people... On both sides.

Will you ever completely stop either? Absolutely not. But you can reduce it to a point where it's an inconsequential issue.

If Australia still has illegal people crossing dangerous oceans in rickity old, un-seaworthy boats... And there is a death toll to it.
Then the USA sharing a land border with it's southern neighbor will have an infinitely bigger task securing that border.

Mr Puggsly said:

Pemalite said:

If you stop people... You also tend to stop the trafficking of other illegal items/substances.

Every nation needs secure borders... It is about being safe for the countries citizens at the end of the day.

You know its even difficult to find statistics about what crime is committed by illegals or how many are incarcerated. This is done on purpose to keep people ignorant.

If people don't want secure borders or safety in general you begin to question what their movies actually are. Because rising crime and higher cost of living doesn't seem to be a concern. All things that affect the poor more.

Not really.
I work with police and border force often as I do fire and rescue, so I have a "little" inside knowledge.

Basically the statistics are formulated based around real-world incidents and reports... And is not statistically extrapolated in order to "assume" anything on a larger scale.
So those who succeed in illegal border crossing and drug smuggling will not be included in the statistics. Just can't.
Crossing the border and ending up caught by a different agency (Or maybe even a different branch of the same agency, depending how coherently the agencies work in the USA) may not be reflected in the statistics either.

There tends to be a paper trail for everything.

Plus as people we shouldn't be making up conspiracies either, that is something that the people seem to be doing more often these days thanks to big personalities like Trump.