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Gaming - Who "Won" E3 2021? - View Post

ZyroXZ2 said:
KLXVER said:

That is how it works. Its what excited you the most. Im guessing thats why the OP put "won" like that in the title. If you like a movie because of a certain actor, then thats what you like. Theres no official movie of the year. Its all preference. MS can build all they want, but if its not interesting, then what do I care?

That's literally not... By the token that it's only what you care about, then every fan in each fanbase simply picks their own because that's what they like to play.  That makes the question "who won E3" inherently flawed because people will simply pick their own system of choice.  This becomes simply a matter of numbers wherever you ask it: if a forum or site is primarily Sony fans, and you ask who won E3, guess who wins?  This is why the logic there is inherently flawed and why I can never succeed in gaming: I keep myself fiercely neutral to a fault.  Whoever has a great game has a great game, whoever has the most powerful console has the most powerful console, whoever has the most exclusives has the most exclusives.  Good is good, bad is bad.

In this case, Xbox presented far stronger than Nintendo.  And if you've seen my channel or know me, you'd know I love Nintendo... There is a bias in me that I have to suppress whenever I talk videogames because my bias is towards Nintendo (just look at the Displates I have on display!).  I often have to take a deep breath and check myself because I love Metroid and Zelda so much, so I knock some sense into myself and looked at Dread compared to what's out there (even in terms of 2D games), and it targeting 60fps makes its graphics suffer with poor textures, poor lighting, low poly models, and surprisingly still framerate dips.  I'm still going to buy it, but I'm subjective that those graphics are mobile game level, ESPECIALLY in light of a game like Monster Hunter Rise where you have four hunters, four buddies, and fighting Teostra with alpha effects popping off everywhere in a full 3D environment during online play.  Capcom rose the bar, and Dread targeting 60fps and doing it poorly will no simply be washed away because I love Metroid.

JSG87 said:

I've not seen one person say they hate Xbox. What I've seen is people who have a Nintendo Switch saying they preferred Nintendo's conference and that's fine.

Honestly, Nintendo & Microsoft had about equally awesome presentations for different reasons and for the most part both companies managed to deliver on quite a few things their fans want.

I think my statement wasn't clear when I said "a lot of people".  I meant that in general globally, lol

Though, saying Nintendo delivered on what fans want and completely ignoring how much hype there was around a Switch Pro... ... lmao

EDIT: You'll notice I didn't say they SAY they hate Xbox (though, I HAVE actually seen a few of those), but I've seen enough comments and tweets (again, globally, stuff that shows up in chats or on my feeds) that clearly pick Nintendo simply out of spite of Xbox.  And deep down, you probably know that's happening anyway lol

mjk45 said:

Don't be silly Sony had by far the most impressive E3 they didn't show one bad game, as for MS very disappointing they built up peoples expectations when they  first unveiled this and after all this time in development we get a mini fridge talk about a downgrade, I can't comment on Nintendo's E3 since I've never heard of them.

I mean, they did actually make that big thing, lol... Gotta give credit to MS for turning the criticism around so easily, they're even supposedly working on Craig plushies hahaha

Ok, now putting all bias aside, I think a show that shows a bunch of games, all with gameplay, all except for a few coming this year and some showing a return of long dead franchises beats a show that does show a few more games, especially exclusives, but only shows gameplay for a few of those and most are releasing next year or don't even have a release window.

Microsoft's showcase was fantastic and showed the value of Gamepass, but it was a showcase for the lineup for the next few years, not just this year and for many games the trailer was completely useless, since it didn't even give a basic idea of what the game is like.

Nintendo's show had less exclusives and games overall, but it was all except for BotW for this year. Almost all the games shown are out in a few months and all of them got gameplay so that you can immediately decide wether it's for you or not.

That makes Nintendo's show more worth my time than Microsoft's show. Therefore Nintendo wins.