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hinch said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Yea pretty much. I think Linus is the only one that's been giving rave reviews for both the 3080 Ti and 3070 Ti and his logic is, it's slightly faster for $600 compared to today's MSRP so get one! But to me, that's kinda nonsense cause those that are watching the reviews are probably going to wait until the prices normalize anyway before picking one up. And yea, the 8GB is a bit too low for it's price bracket. Ironically the laptop version of the 3070 Ti, the 3080 mobile has a 16GB option with the same cuda count but granted lower bandwidth ram. If the 3070 Ti had 16GB of vram, even with it's slight increase in performance, I think it's added price would have been a lot more justifiable.

His argument is that its a decent price at the current market conditions (which to be fair, is somewhat true) but as a reviewer and owner of a huge channel and equally large audience, its quite irresponsible to recommend product/s that offers so little (even to their own existing 70 and 80's) and so poor value for money. Just because a company releases something, and is in stock doesn't mean its good and that you should buy it. Imagine if Sony or Microsoft released a Pro model now with so barely offering anything new but $100 more. Is it a good product because its in stock?

Linus has some good videos and are entertaining buts he need to stop with these enabling videos. Nvidia are treating its end users like trash with moves like this and they know they can get away with it because people are willing to spend (or overspend) over the odds to actually get something.

And yeah, its odd they put more more VRAM in laptops maybe its because there is less demand for gaming laptops for gamers. 8GB VRAM is not enough for a $500 card nevermind $600 one, and Nvidia double downs on it and replacing with GDDR6X, meaning poorer efficiency - by 30%! They should have just slapped 12GB of VRAM on the 3070Ti and 16 on the 3080Ti and called it a day.

If there's one thing I've noticed from Linus over the years, it's that he actually doesn't know economics all that well. He assume "what the market will bear", not that it's the sodding 10% that are buying them up vs the 90% that either cannot afford them thanks to stupidly high prices, or cannot find them because of low production, and Linus just chalks this up to what he thinks is currently acceptable. 

All other reviews slander the price vs perf ratio, but Linus doesn't all that much and even makes excuses for why it's like that, which makes me see him as the odd one out and wrong at that.

1080ti I bought cost me around £700ish brand new sometime back in 2017. Yes that was a tad expensive but it wasn't as high as the Titan or Titan X, and that's why I have major gripes with his "this is the current market" bs, because I know damn well that the 3080, 3080ti and 3090 all shouldn't be so high up in those prices. it's primarily thanks to the chip shortage, Nvidia just rolling with their greed and scalpers that have created this major problem of higher prices. Linus needs to own up to that and I know it takes him forever to realise mistakes like these. 

I used to look up to the guy for years, but that slowly changed when I saw what he was like vs Gamer Nexus. Linus has become more talk and big on 4k/8k and gimmicky shit, while GN is more about the technical aspects, the kind of info we actually like/want from a techie channel, and Linus is just there, gawping at stupidly huge screens, his own custom shit at his own house, while GN is actually taking the fight to faulty products, shitty prices and actually providing good benchmarks/testing grounds.

Like I know he has kids, but I feel like owning a growing company filled with a load of staff, juggling two kids and a wife is proving too much for him vs what Tech Jesus is doing these days. I think Linus should just hand in the towel and let Jayztwocents and GN take over, because he's proving to just makes excuses and not being nearly as informative as the other two channels. 



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