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curl-6 said:

I didn't mean they don't push tech at all, just not to the extent that games like Killzone 2/3/Shadowfall and Horizon Zero Dawn or the console God of War games.

Just my personal bias I guess, I found the Ratchet and Clank games in the same generations more impressive than the games listed above. Pixar style cgi done right is imo more difficult than semi realism. But true, Killzone SF pushed realistic sound propagation (sadly not used after) and Horizon Zero Dawn looks absolutely gorgeous. I'm looking forward to play whatever Guerilla, Santa Monica or Insomniac serve up :)