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Kyuu said:
thismeintiel said:

I think you really should reconsider your way of thinking if you honestly think cross-gen games are going to hurt the PS5's sales. The PS5 is the new hot product on the market. Having a few games still available on PS4 isn't going to change that. They're producing more units than they did the PS4 and it's still selling out.

There will still be games exclusive to the PS5, some more will probably be announced this year or next, and even the cross-gen games will look drastically different on it. We only have to look at the positive reaction to Horizon: FW to see that. GOW will also blow people away. It's not like Sony is showing games that look like Halo Infinite. People are still impressed with their cross-gen games, so it's not going to hurt them in the least. It'll just be fodder in some console wars on forums, ones that will do nothing to change the mainstream's views.

Sooner or later supply will exceed demand, at which point AAA exclusives (especially if deigned around the new hardware features) can make a big difference in driving sales, setting visual benchmarks, and creating hype. To treat Miles Morales, Horizon 2, Ragnarok and GT7 as "a few games" is underselling it; they're easily the 4 biggest games announced so far. Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet, etc do build excitement and entice some to make the jump early, but they're nowhere near as significant/established as the big 4.

As for the graphical upgrades... Miles and GT7 are/will be the same game with better performance, higher resolution, and Ray Tracing among other bells and whistles (Miles is barely affected but this is bad news for GT7 which needs its "I'm back, bitches! Setting the benchmark and dropping jaws!" moment.) I still don't know what to make of Horizon 2 but it's probably a rare exception where the extra PS5 resources are allocated to enhance graphics meaningfully, bringing the fidelity closer to (albeit not quite matching) a true NextGen game.

I understand that those games have been in development for a while, so making them exclusive wouldn't have magically made them look like true PS5 games. But Rift Apart makes me have second thoughts. It's early, ridiculously good looking, and made by a developer working on several projects!!

Jim Ryan's "We believe in generations" is starting to sound like proper PR bullshit. Rift Apart, DeS, Returnal etc are nice to have but at least give us ONE early REALLY big exclusive to show us that you actually meant what you said. Apparently, he only "believed in generations" for their less significant titles. Otherwise he doesn't believe in them more than Phil Spencer does.

PS5 will outpace PS4 regardless, but they aren't going to meet their 23 million+ FY2022 target. In my opinion, high profile exclusives are needed to achieve that. Yes, the 4 big games will obviously be system sellers even without being exclusive, as evidenced by Miles Morales, but the effect would have been much greater if they were true shiny exclusives.

Personally, I'll probably just wait for the slim model or MidGen upgrade. My PS4 and PC will do until then.

Well Im almost there with you, but I still believe they should meet the target by this year.

For one the die hard fan will still pick up a console when ever they can. They can be upset like I am that loved these games and wanted a true ps5 game free from ps4 restrains, but will still buy those games day one.

And second what else would they buy? even if we get downgraded games, the competition dosent have any games at all. Up to this day they have released a single game that was mediocre at best and the future next year looks bleak with a repetitive single big game. Sure this can all change with E3 but thats what we know so far. So for this to really impact the sales of the console the competition would have to release at the very least more 9th gen exclusives than sony and they have to be good not 70's. 



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