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smroadkill15 said:

^Xbox is obviously not a real hero, they're a company like all the others. I'm using it as a figure of speech to point out that Xbox is doing quite a bit of consumer friendly moves that are being overlooked. I'm not sure how an optional service like Game Pass is taking control from a consumer. Everything on Game Pass can be bought separately, and until that day comes that it can't, then that argument is void.
Constantly bringing up the Xbox One faults as an excuse to not trust them anymore is the same as only looking at the ps3/WiiU issues and nothing else. Get over it or don't, I don't really care.
"They forced online gaming" lol. I guess offering a superior service and revolutionizing console online gaming is terrible. Online gaming was coming one way or the other, Xbox was just the 1st to make it big. Look at xbox live and PSN during the 6th and 7th gen. Xbox was superior in every which way and once Sony started charging for online they were able to catch up. You think people would prefer to have free PSN instead of what it is now? No way.
Which one of their early X1 games were they pushing pay2win mechanics? Nothing comes to mind unless you are thinking of KI, which was not pay2win at all.
You're conspiracy theory is just what it is or they wouldn't have dropped Gold from F2P and have free enhancements for all their games, plus 3rd party. Sony and even Nintendo(which they constantly get passes for doing shady practices) do more to nickel and dime consumers than Xbox does right now, but lets ignore that part because Xbox was the bad guy last gen.

Honestly I wouldn't have bothered with a response, there's a strong core group of people that think MS will always be evil/greedy and never should have joined the console business.

Sony was doing MTX before Xbox, why aren't they saying Sony made it an industry standard? Because apparently Xbox did with paying online. You can find the hypocrisy pretty damn quick when you go point by point.

Thankfully, if you look at forums less obsessed with Sales and Fanboyism like Resetera, you see Xbox getting a fair amount of props for doing some very consumer friendly stuff.