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smroadkill15 said:
rapsuperstar31 said:

Hey we just found 1 of the 1% of people that think Forza, Halo, Gears etc is anywhere near the quality of Mario, Zelda, Smash, Uncharted, Last of Us, God of War, Ratchet etc.  That's cool if Microsoft's games are what you enjoy but outside of the improved frame rates/load times there is 0 reason to own an Xbox series X over the Xbox one X at the moment.  That will change soon and Microsoft will narrow the gap quite a bit in 1st party quality in 2 or so years when it starts getting elusive Elder Scrolls Fallout and Starfield type games.  If I'm stuck on an island alone and can only take 10 games with me to play with until I die 0 will be Microsoft made games.

Halo, Gears, Forza are absolutely at the top of quality 1st party games along with anything Sony and Nintendo have. You might not enjoy those games, but the majority of gamers acknowledge Halo franchise as one of the best FPS ever made, Gears as one of the best TPS, and Forza as one of the best racing franchise ever. I would take Halo over any 1st party game on any platform, and it's the main reason I game on Xbox today. 

The perceived quality of Halo and Gears has gone down drastically over the years, though. It hurts me to say it, but there's going to be an increased revisionist history of Halo never having been at the same quality as Nintendo or Sony's best exclusive titles; even though it absolutely was at one point. I'd even argue the same with Gears, with Gears 3 being one of the most standout games I've ever played. 

However, as someone who is a fan of those franchises, I think that's hard to argue for their current outings. And that's why I kind of can't defend something like putting modern Halo, something like Halo 5, against the merits of something like Mario Odyssey. I don't even like Odyssey that much, but there's a leagues and bounds difference in how disappointing and soulless Halo 5 felt to me. That's just me personally though, if you want to do it you can, but I think it's fair to say that, @ the bolded, that's built off prior history of those franchises, not what state they're in now. As franchises get more and more washed up and what people used to love about those games goes away, more people become disillusioned, and people either wonder if those games were ever that great to begin with and/or just don't give acclaim to those franchises anymore in general. You can't live off past critical acclaim forever - that's how you become Sonic. 

Except Forza. Horizon FUCKS.