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dx11332sega said:
Leynos said:

Shmups had a huge comeback the last decade WTF are you on about? Something does not need to sell 1 million to be profitable. Those games are made on small budgets that even 500k for many of them is a massive success. Also Nier Automata sold 5 million and a chunk of that game is a Shmup directly inspired by Ikaruga.


In terms of relevance.


Arcade Racer. We have some good indies but no studio is willing to do a true 90s Arcade racing game.
8th gen lacked really fun fast paced TPS games like a new VanQuish or Binary Domain
*th gen lacked Armored Core. I love DXM but that's a more arcadey game. Which I prefer but still be nice to have a real AC game.

I was talking about traditional shmup, Nier automata is different many consider it an RPG , not a full blown Shmup. If you bring out the alternate sub genre shmup thats not a true full blown , I do't consider onrails as shmup there onrails not actual shmup which is why many complain comparing both on rail and traditional are not the sameSInce they play off so differently also in Nier you move differently compared to onrails it plays more like action adventureWhat comeback? Natsuki chronicles? crimson clover, R type final 2 ? these are real shmup, what comeback? I support shmup but I only support Vertical and horizontal full blown that is true shmup genre . If madden start having RPG elements is it truly rpg or is its main focus still sport sim?

Shmups are constantly being released on modern systems. That says all. R-Type Final 2 just released. I didn't say Nier was a shmup. I said a chunk of it was.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!