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Eagle367 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

I dont know how many people we are talking about, but the jews could give back the stolen land from the west bank with all those illegal settlements. 

But you may be right, it may be too late for them after refusing having their own state three times. In the end they will end up with nothing, or maybe only Gaza.

Based on what I read and watched about the apartheid regime imposed by the jews I doubt they would accept equal rights for the Palestinians, they are too large as a population to have equal rights, it would be too dangerous for Israel.

First of all, stop blaming the Palestenians for them not being able to make a state. Both are at fault but Israel has more of a blame for a Palestenian state not existing because Israel has much more power to deliver and Palestenians are and were dependant on Israel to have a state. Israel was being reasonable in all of the peace deals. The closest it came to a Palestenian state was during the Clinton years but even then, there were problems. 

Second equal human rights is never "too dangerous." That's bs. I don't really care what they call the land as long as they have equal rights. Equal rights are good for all of the humans. Israel is just a made up state, just like any made up state. As long as all people have equal rights, they can call it Tatooine for all I care. But I do agree that the apartheid regime won't give up power easily. That's why the world needs to put pressure on Israel to deliver. The world was able to do it for South Africa and it is able to do it for Israel. The first step is the US entering reality and stop supporting the apartheid regime. 

They were offered three times a chance to have a state and said no and decided to keep fighting. While I admire their determination, they have a very weak hand in any negotiation. Its up to them to accept whatever leftover is handed to them, they can't choose, they can't force israel to give them a better deal. And even if a state was created today it would be worse then in the clinton era which was worse than before.

And for human rights... yeah.. try giving them 100% of the same rights the jews have, the right to vote in israeli elections for 100% of the people including gaza and etc. It just won't work. For the jews of course. As it would give them much more power than they could never have. Israel will never accept that and will prefer keeping the apartheid.