AMD FSR crazzy prediction

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Chazore said:

eva01beserk said:

Again if AMD's tech is worse than Nvidia, wich should be expected, Your unwilling to understand that it can get better over time. And the point of mass adoption is the main reason that it will improve at at faster rate. Because you yourself brought up a few features before that got adopted over better ones simply because it was more available. Would you rather have none cuz a feature is locked behind a niche product? Because thats what DLSS is right now, very few games have it and the adoption started recently. That's the other side of the gated community you forget to mention that devs wont push something where the market is small.

And again at what point did I or anyone said this? I even tried telling you with every response that im not saying that and you still bring that up. I said very clearly that the consoles where gona be AMD's best friends. At no point did I say after that AMD was gona sit on their hands and just leave it to them. They can all 3 innovate  at the same time independent from each other and work together as well. How is that so difficult? Why would you think PC gets slighted because Consoles wich are the majority of the market gets hyped up?

OK but even if thats the case, this was never a console VS pc thing and my thread was that it was gona be good for all because they are working toghether. Not even, the main point was that a tech that is not out yet im predicting is gona be out sooner than anticipated across all platforms. You decided to make a PC vs console thing. Because im still trying to figure out how you managed to go in that direction even though I said multiple times it wasn't about that.

No I know it can get better over time, but so far that hasn't happened in means of surpassing what Nvidia has been doing on their end. Otherwise if AMD has gotten better by that logic, they would have the crown for both GPU perf and RT, but so far they have in raster.

I wasn't the one that brought up the VRR, that was Yuri. Also, like I said before, I wouldn't mind if said features were actually better and behaved well with both card types, instead of one over the other.

I don't see how DLSS is niche, considering it's not that old, Nvidia also has a lot of GPU's out there and at least two gens that are capable of DLSS and other said features since the 2000 series. So far devs are still talking good of DLSS, I don't see devs talking about Nvidia's noise cancelling/green screen tech, because frankly that's streaming related and thus no dev should really be talking about those two features being pushed, while DLSS on the other hand is still being talked of and mentioned by devs via updates from their websites, Steam forums and social media. 

Yes I know, but I don't see why AMD has to rely on consoles to push against Nvidia, when they can also use the same field Nvidia is on. As it stands Nvidia has it's PC marketing push, and that's how it gains it's mindshare, but with AMD, so far they've largely been relying on consoles and not their original field. Yes people buy AMD cards and the like, but I don't see them putting in the same level of focus as they have with consoles, marketing and all, and that's why I end up rolling my eyes whenever they do offer something open to PC and it's lacklustre (besides Ryzen, and Intel was also hella lazy, which people sometimes like to forget). 

It doesn't have to ever be a "console vs PC" thing if we stop using the "majority market" type talks. PC is a huge market, it's popular now more than ever, devs are both excited and desire to build games for that platform, and I wish you'd realise that and stop the talks of "consoles drive the market forward always" talk, because it's ignoring whatever PC ever does, and every time I have to mention this to anyone who makes that sort of speech, they then have to come back with "but PC has always done good things", and this is only mentioned when I bring this up, never mentioned without me having to say anything (for real, this happens a lot on here from what I've seen since 2014).

Oh you know but you ignore Darc Requiem post proving you wrong as how AMD has gained ground beating intel over 3 gens and now matching Nvidia over 2 gens and seems to be on track to do the same with the third gen according to rumors. 

Then should you not wait at least to see whats gona happen before you start complaining and blaming consoles? Because we know its impossible to beat dlss with a few years head start and the majority of the pc market. Theres no choice but to wait and see how FSR evolves. 

You just described a niche product. It dosent matter what the adoption will be in the future, or how long its been on the market, when it will change, how it will change, right now is niche. And thats the difference that you are unwilling to see. Even if its worse or better its still beneficial to the industry as a whole to have a mass adopted feature. SO even if its like 25% improvement over the better 50%, the industry still benefits from that 25% over the 0% that the vast majority of games have now, and a hand full of titles probably funded by Nvidia getting that 50%.

Again why on earth does AMD working with consoles stop them from doing work with PC? YOur not making sense here. There is no wall garden here and no peasants here. Again, you have made the arguments countless times that consoles are just PC's. So many times you made it that with scaling nothing will hold pc back. But now what?

Thats the thing that argument was brought by you. at no point of my original argument was that needed to be introduced untill you started. My point was very clear and simple. AMD as you even yourself have said does not have a competitive product and I said they cannot compete with them head to head in the PC space where Nvidiea dominates and has a few years head start with RTX and DLSS. I said they would leverage the consoles cuz why the f*ck not? At no point did you need to bring your inferiority complex and start to defend PC's cuz at no point was PC under attack. The only thing consoles at all bring to the conversation is the mass adoption of PC + Consoles. Both toghether it never needed to be one or the other how you wana make it.