The Israeli-Palestinian Crisis in mainstream media is getting exposure as ethnic cleansing

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JWeinCom said:

Rab said:

To eradicate or see the destruction of something is not simply killing humans, it could be lively hoods, culture, you name it to drive them from a place 

Genocide can fall into these five categories:

1. Killing members of the group
2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocide 

Your missing the point of the thread, hopefully not deliberately  

If you want to derail this by nit picking, Ill move on

Driving a group to another place is not eradication. Again, we have a word for that, which is displacement. Eradication is physical destruction. If you want to say eradication of culture, that's sort of metaphorical, but it can be used that way. But that's not what you're saying. You're saying Israel is trying to eradicate them, the Palestinians, which is simply not true.

The definition of genocide is incomplete, even if we take their definition. You missed the introduction.

"Genocide is defined as any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group." That part is pretty key because otherwise any murder can be called genocide.

And again, it simply does not seem that Israel's actions are intended to destroy Palestinians as a group. I also don't see which of those categories this falls into. If killing or physically harming any number of the group is genocide, that's a charge that could be made against either side. The conditions in Palestine may be unwarranted and harmful, but they are not severe enough to "bring about their physical destruction". No actions have been taken either to prevent births or forcibly transfer children.

I would say whether or not genocide is occurring is not a nitpick. There's a pretty big difference. If the point of the thread is discussing Israel's actions, then an accurate description of what those actions are is pretty important. It's also directly relevant to how the US media is covering it. You are claiming that the coverage is biased, but if your perception of the situation is not accurate, then that can also be part of the problem. This should not be covered as genocide, ethnic cleansing, or one of the worst human rights atrocities the world has ever seen, because it is not any of those things. 

Israel is for sure trying to wipe the Palestenian identity. Israelis don't acknowledge the existence of Palestine or Palestenians as a valid identity. They call them Arabs. They also take more and more land from Palestenians in an effort to squeeze them out of the area. If the possibility of a Palestenian state ceases to exist, is that not the death of an identity, of an ethnicity? It is genocide, it is apartheid, it is ethnic cleansing and it is one of the worst hi,an rights atrocities in the world right up there with Yemenis, Uyugurs, Kashmiris, etc and in the top echelon of human rights atrocities.

Palestenians in Gaza can;t have electricity because Israel doesn't allow it. People can't fish because israel doesn't allow it. No proper healthcare, no proper food supply system. You can't enter or leave Gaza without Israel's permission. Israeli soldiers rip down solar panels, if people try that. Gaza has no autonomy. West bank is shrinking constantly as Israeli settlements expand more and more. In the end, there will be several Gaza like situations where the people of West Bank will be covered up by Israel from all sides and have very little space for themselves and then they'll be in the same situation as Gazans. And even in West bank, the PA can barely do anything without Israel's approval. Israel wants to remove the Palestenian identity from the face of the Earth. What would you call that?