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zero129 said:

Ok after thinking about it fully opened up like that might not be such a good thing for consoles at least as like you say most of the time they are sold at a lose and make back their money on software. Hmm not really sure how it would work unless consoles makers took a % of any other store sales thats on their console too. But even then not too sure that would work.

Consoles since their inception, have always been designed around the company and it's own ecosystem, so opening that up allows others to implant their own ecosystems into those other consoles. If say for example, Sony doesn't do a good enough job being able to make money back from the consoles, and cannot make good enough offerings within their own ecosystem, while all the other publishers offer multiple deals and exclusives at the same time, within Sony's ecosystem, then Sony stands less of a chance within their very own hw and ecosystem, to make money back (they would end up relying on people paying to play online and 1st party, as 3rd party deals wouldn't make sense anymore for 3rd party pubs to do, since they can set up their own stores internally).

Timmy really, and I mean really doesn't know just what he's about to do. He has no idea what this could do to the industry at large, because as far as things are going now for some of the big publishers, it's no longer about being the middle man anymore, and Timmy doesn't want to be that middle man anymore (hence his fight to put his store on every system, his engine for every game, his network for every game/ecosystem). It's fine when you have multiple storefronts on PC, because MS chooses to allow for it (not like they have much choice, because they would be taken to court if they tried tor restrict software), but with consoles it's a whole different story.

The judge isn't entirely in the know of the differences between consoles and PC, and so far they are seeing both as being the same thing, meaning if the the judge allows Epic to win, then they will enforce the consoles to open up, which could lead to dire consequences for some companies involved (Epic could even lose some partnerships as a result of this, and Sony is likely not pleased with what's transpired already).

You have to also remember that some companies just want to keep their ecosystems walled, and while I personally am not a fan of that, I also know it's their to control and command. I don't really like Apple, but having a third party come in, rule and dictate what they should do is really no better, because when that happens, what's to stop them from doing the same thing? (Epic has already been cited for hypocrisy multiple times so far before and during this court case, so it's already proving the point made).

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Captain_Yuri said:

I do like the idea of this. Hopefully the modders are getting paid for this though if CDPR are gonna use their assets and work.

Yeah, they (the modders) deserve full credit and payment for their hard work. Would be cheaper for CDPR to use that, and save a bunch of time and effort than hiring artists for the job. Also would give the developers of mods some recognition and might open up opportunities for them. Win win situation tbh.

I had a feeling they would phone in with Halk. That guy has been doing a ton of work for CDPR for years now, and it's remained consistent with the game's art style. Having him work with them and providing the retouched assets would provide a far quicker work flow with CDPR and allow Halk to possibly find a job within the company. I hope they hire him after this, because I really do think the guy puts in a lot of effort, especially for the past 6 years.

Last edited by Chazore - on 07 May 2021

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