Non-Americans Stunned By American Health Care Costs

[Eagle367]

Mr Puggsly said:

Eagle367 said:

Private? Do you seriously think it was the private sector that developed it? US tax funded the research and scientists made the breakthrough. All the private sector did was reap the rewards. Public funding also developed the tech needed to make the vaccines aka mRNA tech. Almost every major medical technique and medicine itself was developed using public funding. Sorry but the public sector made the tech, not the private sector. You can hire the scientists directly, remove the big pharma and get the same effects except there no patents and the drugs are cheaper. 

Plus you do know Medicare and Medicaid are run by the government and go ask the people using it how they like it.  

I try not to spend too much time talking politics because its ultimately pointless. How often does our mind change when we have different ideals or expectations? I will make this my final response.

Absolutely, I credit the private sector. Why were resources thrown to them? Because they actually get shit done and I'm sure they will continue to benefit when profit is a motive. People say healthcare shouldn't be for a profit, but the companies that created vaccines did it for a profit. Hence, if spending money alone created innovation government wouldn't have gone to the private sector.

With that said, that's how more things should be done. Don't let the government run much of anything, at least not our incompetent government. Instead throw money at the private sector and government should function as some sort of referee only. When our government has full control of something, you often get a mess. From my understanding, good European countries actually does more of that than us. But I am sure it varies by country.

Medicare is a ponzi scheme. People using it generally get much more out of it than they ever put in. Why? A big reason is people are living much longer. So yeah, people love getting more out of something than they put in. A big flaw of Americans is they love free stuff but hate taxes. Which is why our leaders mislead us into thinking only the rich will pay for it. Meanwhile cost of living is going up but don't confuse that with a tax.

Anyway, its been fun guys. I hope our debate solved some world problems.

Government pays private institutes instead of doing it themselves is not because "they get shit done," it's because the private sector pays off politicians and law makers. They can get shit done and they have gotten shit done around the world.  Sorry but profit isn't a good motive to make innovations, that's just a lie Capitalists tell. Profit is a motive to create roadblocks for more money and to find duplicitous ways to spend less and get more. This bolded one is just ridiculous. Sorry but the same scientists with the same funding will get the same results, if not better.

The public and scientists made the medicine, the vultures in the private sector just got away with the profits.