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Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:

False dichotomy to assert that just because Healthcare is publicly controlled that the Private Sector cannot flourish.
Australia does it just fine.

We also made our own COVID vaccines.

Insurance still exists here, but you can still walk into any hospital free of charge and seek assistance on the spot without having to worry about it.

Mr Puggsly said:

Trump is lovely, but I despise the left more than I support Trump. I am right of center politically, but very liberal on the victimless stuff.

When it comes to healthcare, I admit its a mess that needs changes. But I have little faith in our government to take full control. Because frankly there is little they do well or efficiently. Don't confuse the US with countries that run more effectively. People actually want to eliminate grades in this country because our public school system is a complete failure. These aren't the people I want running healthcare.

And here is the kicker... You are whinging and moaning that Biden has made a few lies... When it was actually a daily exercise for Trump.
Hypocritical perspectives are always a hilarious thing to see unfold.

People want all sorts of things... A few loonies wanting to remove grading from your school system (Which is heavily commercialized in the USA anyway, making it irrelevant...) isn't cause for concern for a completely different topic/aspect/issue, doesn't mean that it is going to turn into a clusterfuck. - Otherwise you are playing into the slippery slope fallacy which is ultimately illogical.

People need to stop putting in roadblocks then complaining on the other hand... Essentially if you want shit to improve, stop standing in the way and get behind progress... I think as a country Australia does that very well.
In the USA if anyone says something... You *always* have someone screech "mah ritez!".
I.E. Wearing masks, social distancing, gun control and more.

We just get on with the job, do it right, and everyone is happy.


I think a lot of countries run things very well (developed ones at least). But anybody with half a brain could tell you how inefficient and ineffective our government run programs are in the US. Hence, I always stress I am reluctant to give government more power when they do an abysmal job with what they're given.

I am pretty Australia is using the same vaccines developed by the private sector. Also, getting people vaccinated hasn't gone entirely smooth over there. But I do believe you were less impacted in general given you live on a fucking island that does a better job controlling who comes in than we do.

I think the type of lie certainly matter. I mean if somebody promises to lower my premiums and healthcare in general, great. But when you do the opposite, that REALLY matters. The decisions Biden is making is also objectively raising the costs of living. So hey, I'm not a fan.

Private? Do you seriously think it was the private sector that developed it? US tax funded the research and scientists made the breakthrough. All the private sector did was reap the rewards. Public funding also developed the tech needed to make the vaccines aka mRNA tech. Almost every major medical technique and medicine itself was developed using public funding. Sorry but the public sector made the tech, not the private sector. You can hire the scientists directly, remove the big pharma and get the same effects except there no patents and the drugs are cheaper. 

Plus you do know Medicare and Medicaid are run by the government and go ask the people using it how they like it.  



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