What is your opinion on gaming subscription services?

[DonFerrari]

Shiken said:

SvennoJ said:

I was under the impression that people saying gamepass saves them a lot of money, actually meant they're spending less on gaming (software) overall thanks to gamepass. At least that is my experience with gamepass as it saved me over a $1000 last gen which went to my gaming laptop and subsequent memory upgrade instead.

So I might have spend the same amount of money as without gamepass, however now it goes more towards hardware and accessories than game development. Good for me and the hardware vendors, not so good for future game development.

What you're saying is the same as saying ps+ and XBL Gold saves you tons of money because of the 'free' games while still spending money on games. That's not the same as looking at your overall spending on software.

Anyway no one is disputing the current value of gamepass, nor ignoring it. The value is the 'problem', especially combined with the focus on DLC and MTX, GAAS and always online. Good for TV and hardware vendors and of course the ones running the subscription services, just not that good for new content or the direction games are heading further into.

You are missing the point.  If you spend more on DLC than you would have, you are still getting more bang for you buck in overall content, and still saving based on what you are playing.  Example...

If I play game A on gamepass for 15 bucks, I would feel more comfortable buying micro transactions or DLC packs for that same game due to the low cost of entry.  Lets say my DLC costs add up to 80 bucks.  Had I bought the game outright for say 60 bucks, I do not bother with DLC.  In this case, the developer gets more money out of me than if I were to buy the game at full price.

And I am still saving money because now I have 140 bucks worth of content, for only 80 dollars instead.  This is a case where dev gets more money and consumer spends less money.  Again it is a really simple concept.

And before anyone says it, no the 15 bucks is not counted toward that cost for that one game.  Because that 15 will also apply to any other gamepass game I play, plus 10 bucks for XBL Gold for a single month.

Considering DLC price per play time is a travesty compared to base game, even worse talking about MTX, your argument is very flawed. Even more when you try to then use the full price of the game and DLC for that "saving". Please explain to me how I paying a full game 10 bucks for 60-100h of gameplay then buying a DLC for additional 10h for 20 bucks get judged the way you do.