What is your opinion on gaming subscription services?

[DonFerrari]

Shiken said:

DonFerrari said:

Neither me nor SvennoJ was disputing any value of the GP.

But you can't at the same time say how great GP is for you on saving money with games but then you end up expending more than before (and well if we look at TV subs that is almost what is happening when people end up having several subs where before they possibly didn't even expend anything or moved from cable to stream to save money and now it reversed).

So again, if you end up expending more than before then GP isn't saving you money it only gives you the ilusion of saving or you can say that you are playing more games or more time and them when you dilute that you are paying less per minute of play. But you can't say GP saved you money if you are expending more because of MTX, DLC, etc (because that is the grand plan and why games have been sliced and diced since the introduction of internet updates to console gaming, and well the main reason I don't like the idea of gaming subs is exactly the one that the model is more sustainable on game as a service, mtx, dlc and other stuff that prevent a delivery of a full product day one).

See you are ignoring the Value.  If you truly want to compare what you are saving, while also spending more on DLC than you normally would have, you need to compare the price of all those games plus the DLC to what you are paying for the DLC plus a subscription.  The difference is staggering and most people would never pay that much.

So while you may be spending more than you normally would have on DLC across more games, you are still saving on the base cost of those games.  Most people will not have bothered with buying every game let alone the DLC on top of it.  It really is a simple concept.

Nope, you are confusing stuff. And avoiding additional cost isn't the same as saving. You can't say that you were expending 1k a month with your bills but now you are saving a lot of money by expending 1.5k but with more services. That is the opposite of saving.