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Chazore said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Not sure but it does take 24 hours for MS to roll it out. You can also manually update it but it doesn't really matter unless you are noticing performance dips with stuttering.

Yea pretty much. I think because of how competitive Nvidia's pricing is and the fact that Samsung's node is quite a bit cheaper, AMD is not making much money from their PC GPU side compared to Consoles and CPUs. We have seen the huge difference between AIB pricing and MSRP even before it got really terrible and it was supposedly due to AMD charging AIBs more than they were supposed to. Not to mention, we had that whole nonsense where AMD was going to stop selling their founders edition which were the only cards that were able to achieve MSRP before the backlash. Where as on Nvidia's side, you had a number of cards that were close to MSRP before it became a super shit show thanks to Crypto and Tariffs on top of scalpers.

So all in all, I doubt we will see RDNA 2 supply for a while. We have seen the crazy stats when it comes to Nvidia shipping 3-4 times more GPUs than AMD has. RDNA 3 will be in a smaller node so in theory, the supply for next generation of GPUs should be much better.

And yea, Nvidia is bringing true innovation to the PC gaming GPUs where as AMD is just focusing on catching up while duct taping Ray Tracing to their GPUs.

Fair doos. I'll have to wait and see what they do, but I am being affected by the update with some games that use both full screen and exclusive FS (performance drops and stuttering). I'm not really liking how we just got out of that shitty Nvidia driver situation (perf drops for games like Supreme comm) and MS lands us into another one via their updates. Can people please thoroughly test updates before releasing them? (hate how it takes months for them to fix what they otherwise roll out in seconds). 

I still remember when Lisa said they were going to put a bit more focus on their GPU side, after Ryzen clapped Intel's ass for the past few years, but then we get a paper launch and not much else. I know ppl rip on Jensen for his empty words, but Lisa's honestly going the same route with their GPU llineup (like if she doesn't care, she should at least be honest, and I know no company wants to be, out of fear of losing sales, but that's how it be when you're failing and lie about who you're really wanting to support at the end of the day).

I guess at this point I should just wait for the 4000 series, because 3000 is really sounding like some weird dream to me.

Duct tape RT lmao, so true though, and it'll only get worse the more Nvidia rolls out with. If they focus more on consoles, play a very slow game of catch up on PC, then we're going to end up seeing quite a large divide, where AMD goes to being far more console based, and nvidia PC based with some partial console side share (Switch/switch2). Not a good look for AMD if you'd ask me.

Yea, it's what happens when a company like MS fires majority of their Windows quality control testing team and instead started crowd sourcing quality control with Windows updates. There's a pretty good reason why Windows 10 has had a reputation of being buggy compared to their older versions of Windows.

Yea, both Nvidia and AMD are shitty companies when you get right down to it. Most people just like AMD better cause of the underdog status and gloss over the fact that AMD is selling a product that is great in raster but fairly terrible in other things for about the same price as Nvidia who is giving you all these features on top of being great at raster. But don't worry, if you some how managed to buy a 6800XT for your dual core CPU system and you like to play at low settings and 720p resolution, AMD is the much better choice because of the low cpu overhead.

To AMD's credit though, they did catch up in Raster which after quite a few generations of losing, is quite a big leap. It's hard to recommend RDNA 2 because of their issues but it's hard to deny their advancements. The question is whether or not they are gonna go the GCN route or the Ryzen route. When they released the 7000 and then the 200 series, AMD was going toe to toe with Nvidia as well. But eventually, Nvidia started to take a massive lead for years. Right now, it feels like RDNA 2 could be the 7000 series. But as the number of games that support Ray Tracing and DLSS increase, AMD needs to make sure their RT performance is competitive with Nvidia and Super Resolution is actually good on top of having excellent Raster. If they can do that while keeping a competitive price, even I might go a full Red Team build one day.

Just the question is, will they be able to?