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Chazore said:
Captain_Yuri said:

While it's good that Nvidia now has a card that... On Paper (cause it will cost 2x+ in real life) is a direct competitor to the 6900XT and 6800 in terms of price and Raster performance, it is a bit disappointing. Because in the past, a refresh signifies more powerful GPUs for similar price.

2070 MSRP: $500 then you had 2070 Super MSRP: $500 which performed very close to a 2080.

Now you have 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti which more so just puts the cards in between the price gaps that AMD is in. Also 8GB is pretty yikes. The irony is that the 3080 laptop which has the same core count as the 3070 Ti (But obviously less clocks) comes in 16GB of Vram. But granted G6 instead of the G6X.

I suppose that is the current market trend. Where refreshes no longer give you more performance for the same price but rather just fill in the hole when it comes to price gaps.

We're not gonna get a deal like the 1080ti in a long time, Yuri...

Which sucks, because you'd think them bringing out a ti model, would bring some form of balance to the market. All I see happening with this, is it getting snatched up by scalpers/miners soon as. Even with the currency going down in value, some will likely snap it up.

I dunno why they even want to give the market refreshers, because they'll only be filling a rather small and expensive hole, that hardly anyone is going to either want, nor afford, or even manage to grab.

It's like creating a problem, instead of a solution. 

I am assuming they have certain contracts or something they need to fill or maybe the yields of 12GB is better than 24GB of G6X since I doubt Nvidia wants to lose the $500 that they could be making by selling the 3090 by releasing the 3080 Ti. It just doesn't make any business sense since it's technically better for the consumer by having Nvidia release a more obtainable version of the 3090. If you are lucky enough to even get one at MSRP that is.

As GPU plans happen years before they actually launch, I am sure a refresh of Ampere was gonna happen one way or another since they are going release Lovelace next year. And honestly, in a lot of ways, I am pretty concerned about Lovelace/RDNA 3 pricing. Like Turing was pretty meh and AMD has been very meh for a long time. So both companies brought their A game and competitive pricing because they wanted to make sure they can sell these products. But now that the GPUs are able to sell 2-3x their MSRP, what is it gonna mean for the future of GPUs and their pricing?

The worst part is, a few months ago, it was pretty easy to buy 10-14 TB hard drives for relatively cheap in Canada. Now they are sold out every where thanks to Chia coin. This is the embodiment of PC gaming hell. What's next? They gonna come up with a coin that uses RAM? At this point, someone is probably gonna come up with a way to mine using RGB.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850