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Cyran on 23 April 2021
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Captain_Yuri said:
Cyran said:

Looking back Nvidia 20 series was the exception and how they handling the 30 series is the normal.  20 series was in a odd place since Nvidia was trying to get more people to adapt it being the first generation to support ray tracing so they was motivated to at least attempt to make it more attractive till they was ready to release the 30 series.

Well sort of.

Even if we go back to say Pascal. You had the 1080 launch for $599 MSRP and $699 for Founders. Then you had the 1080 Ti which launched for $699 for both and the 1080 got a price drop to $499. With 1070, you had $379 MSRP and $449 for Founders. With the 1070 Ti, you had $449 MSRP for both but granted the 1070 non founders didn't get a discount.

Now you kinda have this situation where nothing is getting a discount or giving you more performance for a similar price or slightly more price. One could argue that a 3080 Ti being a slightly cut down 3090 for $500 less is like the 1080 Ti. And yes, there's obviously value there. But to me it's like, the 1080 Ti also made the 1080 cheaper where as the 3080 Ti won't.

So it's like, you get 8-15% more performance + 2GB more Vram for $300 more with a 3080 Ti vs 3080. Compared to before, you got 30% more performance + 3GB more Vram for $100 more (or $0 compared to Founders) with a 1080 Ti vs 1080. Maybe I just miss those days loll.

Fair enough.  Having a price reduction would of been awesome for 3080 but that was never going to happen given the supply vs demand issues. 

As for the 30% vs 15% jump for the xx80 to xx80ti that a bit more complicated. 

The 1080 was closer to 3070 when it comes to chipset since both used xx104 while xx102 was reserve for titan at launch until the 1080ti came out.

where the 3080 is using the (xx102 chipset) the same as the 3080ti/3090 so there really was not as much space for improvement and could argue you getting a better card with 3080 compare to what you getting with 1080 to begin with. 

Of course there a big price difference too but unfortunately that ship has sail and we never going back to 10 series pricing unless there a major change in the competitive land scape like AMD or INTEL having high end product that competitive and cost less but I don't see that happening anytime soon.