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Cyran said:
Captain_Yuri said:

While it's good that Nvidia now has a card that... On Paper (cause it will cost 2x+ in real life) is a direct competitor to the 6900XT and 6800 in terms of price and Raster performance, it is a bit disappointing. Because in the past, a refresh signifies more powerful GPUs for similar price.

2070 MSRP: $500 then you had 2070 Super MSRP: $500 which performed very close to a 2080.

Now you have 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti which more so just puts the cards in between the price gaps that AMD is in. Also 8GB is pretty yikes. The irony is that the 3080 laptop which has the same core count as the 3070 Ti (But obviously less clocks) comes in 16GB of Vram. But granted G6 instead of the G6X.

I suppose that is the current market trend. Where refreshes no longer give you more performance for the same price but rather just fill in the hole when it comes to price gaps.

Looking back Nvidia 20 series was the exception and how they handling the 30 series is the normal.  20 series was in a odd place since Nvidia was trying to get more people to adapt it being the first generation to support ray tracing so they was motivated to at least attempt to make it more attractive till they was ready to release the 30 series.

Well sort of.

Even if we go back to say Pascal. You had the 1080 launch for $599 MSRP and $699 for Founders. Then you had the 1080 Ti which launched for $699 for both and the 1080 got a price drop to $499. With 1070, you had $379 MSRP and $449 for Founders. With the 1070 Ti, you had $449 MSRP for both but granted the 1070 non founders didn't get a discount.

Now you kinda have this situation where nothing is getting a discount or giving you more performance for a similar price or slightly more price. One could argue that a 3080 Ti being a slightly cut down 3090 for $500 less is like the 1080 Ti. And yes, there's obviously value there. But to me it's like, the 1080 Ti also made the 1080 cheaper where as the 3080 Ti won't.

So it's like, you get 8-15% more performance + 2GB more Vram for $300 more with a 3080 Ti vs 3080. Compared to before, you got 30% more performance + 3GB more Vram for $100 more (or $0 compared to Founders) with a 1080 Ti vs 1080. Maybe I just miss those days loll.



                  

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