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Captain_Yuri said:

While it's good that Nvidia now has a card that... On Paper (cause it will cost 2x+ in real life) is a direct competitor to the 6900XT and 6800 in terms of price and Raster performance, it is a bit disappointing. Because in the past, a refresh signifies more powerful GPUs for similar price.

2070 MSRP: $500 then you had 2070 Super MSRP: $500 which performed very close to a 2080.

Now you have 3070 Ti and 3080 Ti which more so just puts the cards in between the price gaps that AMD is in. Also 8GB is pretty yikes. The irony is that the 3080 laptop which has the same core count as the 3070 Ti (But obviously less clocks) comes in 16GB of Vram. But granted G6 instead of the G6X.

I suppose that is the current market trend. Where refreshes no longer give you more performance for the same price but rather just fill in the hole when it comes to price gaps.

For prices yeah it sucks. With the current market Nvidia and AMD can price things as they want and that means that there no real need to match or lower gen to gen for pricing (or refreshes) when demand is so high. Hopefully, the mining crash comes soon and more GPU's are available later this year for actual users and prices will even out. I'm still rooting for the Intel who could be real underdog - shame its 3070Ti competitor is rumored to drop next year.

But yeah this refresh seems lazy and late. No Lovelace in 2021 and both manufacturers don't have any incentive to offer good value in the GPU space when there's practically no competition but themselves.

Do I want that 3070Ti though!

It would be funny if that switch pro rumour comes true and it's running Lovelace while PC has to wait until 2022 to get the desktop version. It would be so weird.

But yea, Intel is now in this weird position that AMD was in for the past several years where we were looking to them to be the best bang per buck. Now that AMD has shown themselves to not care about value anymore and Nvidia always charged premium for their performance and exclusive features, Intel has now taken the underdog position. I just hope that they don't pull a rocket lake and price half their line up in a stupid way.