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Pemalite said:

JEMC said:

Pemalite said:

SSD (With DRAM cache)+8GB is good for a basic rig depending on what the rest of the system is and what they are doing with it.

I had to check it to be sure because I wasn't sure about it (the PC is from 2014). They're an A8-7600 paired with a Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3, and have a regular 3.5" HDD. I could have sworn that it had an FX 6300... well. my memory isn't what it used to be.

Changing to an SSD could also mean getting a new Windows license because he upgraded from Win7 to Win10 and, if I have to get RAM, SSD and Windows, it makes more sense to just go all for it and change the CPU and Mobo as well.

You are definitely held back by the spinning rust drive.
In saying that... The 4-thread bulldozer derived CPU isn't doing you any favors either, but that isn't the bottleneck for basic tasks like web surfing.

If you aren't willing to make the switch to an SSD... Perhaps a Sandisk Readycache drive if you can find one cheap might be more suitable, it will cache data from the mechanical disk and my own testing has shown marked improvements in system responsiveness.

But yeah, that system is showing it's age now... Even the old Ryzen 2200G would be a night and day difference.

I was surprised by the CPU (or should i say APU) inside his rig, it's definitely time for a full upgrade.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

JEMC said:

Those little guys pack a good punch, but I don't understand why AMD decided to not include PCIe 4.0. It could have been the final nail in the coffin of Intel's laptop market.

The shortage of Realtek chips is unbelievable. Is there anything that's not in short supply nowadays?

Keep in mind that at it's base it's a mobile chip that's being used on desktop here. Considering that PCIe 4.0 still needs quite a bit of power, enough to require active cooling on most X570 motherboards, I think  it would just have soaked up a lot of the power budget of the chip, way too much to be viable in it's mobile form.

As for what's not in short supply, I'd say shortages...

You may be right, but I'm still surprised AMD did't go for it, even if it's only for the bragging rights. And they could use the lines from the CPU for that while using a chip capped at PCIe 3.0 like the B550.

Oh, and yes, we have plenty of shortages nowadays, much to our dismay.