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Mummelmann said:

JEMC said:

Mummelmann said:

In my defense; I play good games as well. :P Currently finishing my second playthrough of Pathfinder Kingmaker (which actually made me go out and buy Pathfinder Pen & Paper system!).

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First of all, thanks for acknowledging that Fifa isn't a good game XD.

Sadly, I didn't play RPGs back in the day, heck my first rol game was FF 7, and now those games like Pathfinder Kingmaker, Divinity or Pillars of Eternity seem to complex for a newby like me. But I plan to change that! I grabbed Pillars of Eternity when the EGS gave it away and I'll give it a go sooner or later (first I want to finish the trio of new Wolfenstein games, done with Old Blood and in the middle of New Order).

Pillars of Eternity would be highest on my list of recommended games of those you mentioned, it's not as complex as Kingmaker or the Divinity games. It's quite difficult though, you need to be strategic a lot of the time. Divinity is the better game of the lot, but Kingmaker, to me, is a bit more fun and it works on a system very familiar to me since I'm an old RPG nerd since the mid-'90s.

Noted. Thanks for the tips.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

JEMC said:

Launching their products two months after the competition had a sure impact, but we're not talking about the sales of the last year but the whole PC add-in board ecosystem. That 9% fall is not only because Navi 2x, but because AMD GPUs are losing appeal, probably because Nvidia leads and brings new features that puts AMD at a disadvantage.

Fun fact: AMD actually increased the amount of GPUs sold.

The problem is that 2020 due to the lockdowns the total PC sales went up a lot, and NVidia took the lion's share of that increase.

Navi 2x is actually countering the appeal  argument since they are much more appealing already than anything they had since Hawaii or Fury. But before they only had the leftover Polaris and Vega, which are very outdated, and Navi, which didn't come with a high-end and couldn't quite keep up with NVidia in performance per watt and didn't come with Raytracing, making it still an inferior product even though it was a massive improvement over Vega.

I'm also not sure if AMD was affected with short supplies before in their GPUs; I saw the Sapphire and Powercolor cards (the only ones I would buy since they are by far and large above the fray) often going out of stock for some periods of time. Considering that the Zen 2 Ryzen 3 were very hard to find and AMD extending  production of Zen/Zen+ chips, I'm fairly sure AMD already in early 2020 had supply issues, and it only got worse for them from there.

Long story short, don't overdramatize the drop in market share as only a small part of it is due to product quality, and that one has improved a lot since then.

Edit:

I'm quoting Conina here from his steam thread:

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As you can see, AMD actually marginally increased it's market share from 10.42% to 10.60% in 2020, and that's beside NVidias total dominance in laptop GPUs and the fact that Navi 2x is still missing in the charts due to still being somewhere in the DX8 group right now

I'm not making a drama out of it, son't worry. AMD has been well below the 20% of the market before and has managed to revive again, but they've always needed some kind of extra to pull that off, something they don't have right now.

That AMD has sold more cards than the year before is obviously good news, yet it's irrelevant if the competition managed to sell even more cards. We're not talking about making a profit but the marketshare of each one, and they lost a chunk of it.

Now, is AMD hurting more because of the supply problems than Nvidia given that they also need to make CPUs and console APUs? Sure, they probably are, but they knew when consoles would launch and when they were going to launch their own products so it's not just a supply problem but also one of bad management for not being able to book enough waffers at TSMC.

All I'm saying is that it's not all black and white and, while the circumstances are the way they are, AMD needs to improve if they really want to claw back part of the market from Nvidia like they did with Intel.

Oh, and don't be naughty, boffer, that DX8 group not only includes Navi 2x, but also Nvidia's 3070.