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Chazore said:

hinch said:

To be fair Cryptocurrency is such an waste in resources and supporting it by allocating silicon to it doesn't make the situation better. Miners will eventually flood the market with cheaper GPU's once the bubble burst regualar cards will eventually make its way to consumers - though with mining nerfs who knows what will happen. These CMP cards will end up in the fill and miners will have no other alternative given that A) they go through hoops to hack cards B) only buy cards from select range which will eventually be obsolete.

This is a double whammy of waste of resources for something incredibly bad for the environment. But yeah they are a business.

Also, not only are Nvidia just covering their asses, they still aren't doing much to stop miners affecting the higher end cards, and even then, Nvidia don't clearly care if miners bypass the locks in place on those refresh cards, because either way they'll still make bank.

Those mining cards are just designed to be tossed into the scrapyard, and even then they won't be of any use recycling for materials. Nvidia, exactly like linus said, do not care for the gamers, nor recycling or the energy waste.

When you look at this from stepping back, Nvidia is still going to massively gain from this, while gamers get a half arsed attempt at a temp fix, miners still get what they want, and energy and materials are being wasted on an even bigger scale.

We know Nvidia are a business Yuri, but they shouldn't be covering their asses this hard, like super "I don't wanna suffer an inch" kind of hard. This is just desperate and wasteful penny pinching, and only two parties gain from this (both wasting resources and energy). 

This could even be a turn for the worst, if miners manage to break through and continue using both sets of cards. Something is going to have to be done about this well before years end, or the consumer market is going to suffer all the more, and recycling for materials is going to yield far less. We're already wasting enough plastic, gold and other metals as is, we don't need Nvidia ramping up the waste because they're greedy. 

The thing is, we don't know how effective Nvidia's anti mining solution is going to be. If the 3060 series comes out and it's gets hacked within day 1 (or relatively soon after) and becomes a nothing burger, then I would absolutely agree that Nvidia put zero effort into it.

But the problem is, we don't know how effective Nvidia's anti mining thing is. The only thing we know is that it's being implemented at a Driver Level, at a BIOS level and at a Silicon level. But Linus in the video doesn't even know that it's being implemented that deeply.

The e-waste is the main thing I don't like about Nvidia's strategy as he is 100% correct about it. But outside of that, most of the CMP cards are supposed to be based on Turing which is a completely different fab than Ampere Geforce as Turing is using TSMC's 14nm vs Ampere Geforce is using Samsung's 8nm. So if the miners do go for the CMP, majority of the cards won't affect Ampere Geforce allocation at all which will in theory make the situation better. Especially if Nvidia's anti mining solution turns out to be good and it gets implemented through the rest of the 3000 series line up which is currently rumored to.

Instead, Linus just did a knee jerk reaction video with little effort without actually waiting to see the results. Maybe the anti mining solution will have a easy work around but we should at least wait and see how it does before burning them. Because it's consumers that wanted Nvidia to do something and I'd much rather have Nvidia or any other company try things than lie on their backs doing nothing. Cause otherwise, this mining issue will happen again, and again, and again... And I'd rather not just rely on my luck to get a GPU.